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(I'll just say that RÃ*an's views of those matters sides entirely - at least so far - with the elvish view as stated by JRRT in his essay "Laws and Customs Among the Eldar" in HoME 10, Morgoth's Ring )
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I think this matter can be reasonably explained away, however. Tell me what you think. My explanation: The petitioners aren't all elves. Those that are elves might have over time integrated with Val's kingdom. So there are men and elves. This was a time of alliance between men and elves also, so greater connection between the two makes some sense from a historical standpoint.
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09-09-2005, 06:48 PM | #264 | ||
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09-09-2005, 07:12 PM | #265 | |
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TD, I am glad you liked my "man". Let him become Khamul. Omar Sharif could be proposed to GW. BB, if you can find a sexier Gordis, please post it. Let her choose. Gor, could you find a pic yourself? I am still confused with all these new developments. And perhaps I am wierd, but I don't think this plot with elves and river and ecology should be developed further. No offence. But, man, we have the Ring and Nazgul and housekeepers and students etc. on our hands already not to speak about this Barlog? coming to tharbad. |
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09-09-2005, 07:16 PM | #266 |
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What's this about a Balrog? On which post did that enter the story?
EDIT: Hang on . . . are you referring to my character?
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09-09-2005, 07:27 PM | #268 |
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Lotesse and CrazySquirrel, I respect your viewpoints.
Let me tell you about one of my ways of doing things. I like to create little mysteries without explaining everything about them. Characters to other players figure out these mysteries, and they aren't all separate adventures. What I'm trying to do at this moment in the RPG is bind everything together. Ring, Nazgul, Balrog, ecology and all. It's all one plot, not multiple separate plots. If they were multiple completely separate plots, then I would agree with you. Having the ecology thing as well seems a bit overwhelming. Heck, I like just having one plot thread. Having just two that are completely separate can be complicated. What I'm doing right now is binding everything together into one massive plot thread. Of course, if you want me to keep my prying hands off, that's completely fine. I'll accept that, and probably leave the game, just because it is so hard for me to avoid plotting!!! (Weeps) So hard. I am not trying to control anyone's characters at all. Everyone has complete free will. I'm just trying to bring purpose and direction to the game, something that I almost do automatically. It's the way my mind works. So I'd like it if you would trust me . These aren't separate plot threads. They aren't an overwhelming hurdle. If they were, I would not only agree with you, I would applaud your judgment. Five or six totally different plot threads all at the same time is TOO MUCH. Anyway, tell me what you think.
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09-09-2005, 07:27 PM | #269 |
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well ... the ecology bit is good, i am all for that, we butterflies need our habitats!
mmm interesting to see what is in the coach (the coach probably should be locked) ... mind you lief ... i suspect some nazgul will not be happy with announcing so loudly we are here ... we are here in secret! |
09-09-2005, 07:30 PM | #270 |
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The Nazgul call is a strange tongue. Nobody can understand the words, just like in the book.
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09-09-2005, 07:32 PM | #271 |
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plus i don't in anyway see seperate plots here ... it's all one ... merely the many parts mixing in the gumbo of our pot-boiler ...
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09-09-2005, 07:39 PM | #272 |
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I think the plot threads do appear fairly separate right now. Do you know how the Ring relates to the Nazgul, at present? Or how the Nazgul relate to the ecology? I just hope people will trust me to interlink everything (unless they don't want me to, of course. I like organization and plot focus, but others have different personalities).
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09-09-2005, 07:54 PM | #273 |
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could i ask you to slow down a tad please (know that sounds wierd coming from me .. so all involved can add their input! ) for sure i have my own ideas too, but i like people to feel they have some (more than some!) involvement in an rpg ... not have it done for them, y'know? could you take that on board and let it remain interactive? for example gordis has stated she wants the coming of the Nazgul to be secret ... many have taken time with cover stories ... perhaps shouting out heh we are nazgul and we are here! ... could be looked at? many thanks BB Last edited by Butterbeer : 09-09-2005 at 08:00 PM. |
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09-09-2005, 08:18 PM | #275 |
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I have no problem with cutting out the loud call. I can find some way to discreetly request the Nazgul's presence.
I did not mean to make others feel uninvolved. I don't mean to ruin anything that has been happening. Please don't make this confrontation happen, CrazySquirrel. I'm backing off. If you push this forward, I assure you that I will leave the RPG altogether. It's not a "you or me." You automatically win. I've deleted the contents of my last two posts, and if you ask me to, I'll delete more. More than one story can definitely happen at once, if you all wish . I wanted my character to meet with the Nazgul to see if they could work together on a plan, though of course any uninterested Nazgul could totally refuse. I thought this would be fun for all. Clearly I'm running people over by accident-you're right, Butterbeer, moving too fast. I'm an unknown character wandering in, acting like he knows everything and rules the world. Once again, I apologize!
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Wherever Lilly and Pengolod go, Viniglaen follows. She is extremely loyal that way. I, for one, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this, would be devastated if CS left. There, so I said it.
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09-09-2005, 08:34 PM | #278 |
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CS, calm down a bit!
I can appreciate what you are saying but i just think Lief is very keen is all! I have no doubt he has some good ideas ..as do we all ... Lief .. could you just slow down a bit please so everyone can feel valued. I'm sure it wasn't your intention to say the rpg had no value or direction ... and i am interested to hear your ideas ... but as in any rpg ... theres got to be some give and take ... and time for people to get to know new characters! and we all like to discuss where it's going! CS ... please have a think about it ... you know if it came to it i would side with you (sorry Lief) but both you guys ... i really hope you both stay ... again i'm sure Lief didn't mean it the way you took it ... though to be fair Lief i had to read that post twice myself! i'm going to bed in a mo' ... i'll be able to post a little in the morning, but unfortunately i'll be away from then till tuesday ... so guys please don't blow this up while i'm away! ...that'd be a fine birthday present! |
09-09-2005, 08:35 PM | #279 |
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Oh hell, I dont want CS to leave! Why would she want to do that?
Welcome in Lief! Good to see you took the plunge!
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