Riddling III - Page 14

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 11-20-2008, 06:01 PM

Sorry, my bad.

I can't really define 'grok' for you unless you can speak Martian. But if you read Heinlein's "A Stranger In A Strange Land" you will begin to grok, but not in fullness. It won a Hugo, so you know it's good lit. You'll never look at someone offering you a glass of water the same way again.

Midge · 11-20-2008, 08:13 PM

I don't speak martian.. maybe google or wiki will be able to explain a little better.

Quote:

Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a part of the observed—to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in group experience. It means almost everything that we mean by religion, philosophy, and science—and it means as little to us (because of our Earthly assumptions) as color means to a blind man.

Good?

Oh, and...

Quote:

According to the book, drinking is a central focus on Mars where water is scarce. Martians use the merging of their bodies with water as a simple example or symbol of how two entities can combine to create a new reality greater than the sum of its parts. The water becomes part of the drinker, and the drinker part of the water. Both grok each other. Things that once had separate realities become entangled in the same experiences, goals, history, and purpose.

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 11-21-2008, 09:43 AM

Not the greatest Wiki entry but it's close enough. I would still recommend the book when you have time.

Apologies to all for the OT. Back to riddling.

Midge · 11-21-2008, 03:49 PM

Okay. I'll remember that.

*sees no riddles to solve and stamps off to the Quote Game*

Noble Elf Lord · 12-05-2008, 03:23 PM

Here goes...

From the fading Twilight
To the new rising light
A mundane thing
Some of the power
Of the Elder within.

Gordis · 12-06-2008, 04:54 AM

Elessar the green jewel?

Noble Elf Lord · 12-06-2008, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordis

Elessar the green jewel?

Good guess, but no.

Gordis · 12-06-2008, 06:40 AM

Still looks like one of the gifts from Galadriel to the Fellowship. Which one I don't know...

Midge · 12-10-2008, 08:44 PM

From the fading Twilight
To the new rising light
A mundane thing
Some of the power
Of the Elder within.

I think the point is that it could apply to several things. It seriously sounds like the Lorien cloaks to me. Or maybe Nenya? If you consider a ring a mundane thing.

My question is if it is referring to something specific, or a type of somethings, and when it refers to it.. like.. is it during the Silmarillion or around the Fourth Age? And when you say "Elder" do you mean "Eldar" or the older people or the oldest elves... or what?

Noble Elf Lord · 12-12-2008, 04:21 AM

This refers to one specific item, which is still rather mundane. By the Elder I mean the older Children of Erú.

Gordis · 12-12-2008, 05:57 AM

Sam's dirt-box?

Noble Elf Lord · 12-13-2008, 05:02 AM

A tip regarding it's value: both thief and king would value it, though a king would value it more, for two things: both the material and it's beauty, whereas the beauty would be likely overlooked by a thief. Note: A thief, not any peculiar one. Same for "the" king.

Gordis · 12-13-2008, 12:05 PM

The new sheath for Anduril?

Noble Elf Lord · 12-13-2008, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordis

The new sheath for Anduril?

No, not that one either. This is much smaller.

Gordis · 12-13-2008, 07:58 PM

Ring of Barahir?

Noble Elf Lord · 12-14-2008, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordis

Ring of Barahir?

Nope.

Oops, I did it again, didn't I?

The riddle points to many objects... then again, it's not smart to make a riddle which you solve immediately.

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 12-14-2008, 09:29 PM

Phial of Galadriel?

Midge · 12-14-2008, 10:36 PM

That's already been guessed, DPR. It was a mundane thing. I don't know what you'd call mundane. And I don't know where we're getting our certainty that it comes from LOTR. It could have come from the Silmarillion, as far as I could see.

Gordis · 12-15-2008, 08:10 AM

It could be anything ever given by Elves to Men...

And that is a whole heap of things, some mundane, some not.

Midge · 12-17-2008, 04:17 AM

I think it's high time I posted another one. I need to sleep now currently, though. I'll try tomorrow.

11-20-2008, 06:01 PM	#1
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	Sorry, my bad. I can't really define 'grok' for you unless you can speak Martian. But if you read Heinlein's "A Stranger In A Strange Land" you will begin to grok, but not in fullness. It won a Hugo, so you know it's good lit. You'll never look at someone offering you a glass of water the same way again. __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

11-21-2008, 09:43 AM	#3
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	Not the greatest Wiki entry but it's close enough. I would still recommend the book when you have time. Apologies to all for the OT. Back to riddling. __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

11-21-2008, 03:49 PM	#4
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	Okay. I'll remember that. sees no riddles to solve and stamps off to the Quote Game __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

12-05-2008, 03:23 PM	#5
Noble Elf Lord Leaf-Crowned Lord Of Elvenpath Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Heaven by the looks of it. Hell by the feel of it. Posts: 1,052	Here goes... From the fading Twilight To the new rising light A mundane thing Some of the power Of the Elder within. __________________ Hers.

12-10-2008, 08:44 PM	#9
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	From the fading Twilight To the new rising light A mundane thing Some of the power Of the Elder within. I think the point is that it could apply to several things. It seriously sounds like the Lorien cloaks to me. Or maybe Nenya? If you consider a ring a mundane thing. My question is if it is referring to something specific, or a type of somethings, and when it refers to it.. like.. is it during the Silmarillion or around the Fourth Age? And when you say "Elder" do you mean "Eldar" or the older people or the oldest elves... or what? __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

12-06-2008, 04:54 AM	#6
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Elessar the green jewel?

12-06-2008, 06:40 AM	#8
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Still looks like one of the gifts from Galadriel to the Fellowship. Which one I don't know...

12-12-2008, 04:21 AM	#10
Noble Elf Lord Leaf-Crowned Lord Of Elvenpath Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Heaven by the looks of it. Hell by the feel of it. Posts: 1,052	This refers to one specific item, which is still rather mundane. By the Elder I mean the older Children of Erú. __________________ Hers.

12-12-2008, 05:57 AM	#11
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Sam's dirt-box?

12-13-2008, 05:02 AM	#12
Noble Elf Lord Leaf-Crowned Lord Of Elvenpath Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Heaven by the looks of it. Hell by the feel of it. Posts: 1,052	A tip regarding it's value: both thief and king would value it, though a king would value it more, for two things: both the material and it's beauty, whereas the beauty would be likely overlooked by a thief. Note: A thief, not any peculiar one. Same for "the" king. __________________ Hers.

12-13-2008, 12:05 PM	#13
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	The new sheath for Anduril?

12-13-2008, 07:58 PM	#15
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Ring of Barahir?

12-14-2008, 09:29 PM	#17
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	Phial of Galadriel? __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

12-14-2008, 10:36 PM	#18
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	That's already been guessed, DPR. It was a mundane thing. I don't know what you'd call mundane. And I don't know where we're getting our certainty that it comes from LOTR. It could have come from the Silmarillion, as far as I could see. __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

12-15-2008, 08:10 AM	#19
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	It could be anything ever given by Elves to Men... And that is a whole heap of things, some mundane, some not.

12-17-2008, 04:17 AM	#20
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	I think it's high time I posted another one. I need to sleep now currently, though. I'll try tomorrow. __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

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