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I think it is a complicated subject, and I'm not set in stone on my ideas in this area. You can "legislate" morality to a certain extent, but obviously not fully, and I think we need to choose which battles to fight for, considering it from every angle. I think that partial birth abortion should definitely be illegal, but earlier abortions should not be illegal. But some level of parental/guardian notification should be in place (it's ridiculous that you can't give kids an aspirin without parental consent, but that same kid can get an abortion), and standards of abortion clinics should be tightened - some of the things that happen in some clinics are atrocious.
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What Rian stated her stance is on abortion legality (and I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with Rian, of all people, on an abortion topic point! ), I hold to that as well, I agree with Rian here. This is the legality viewpoint, not the morality viewpoint, BTW. To quote Rian, she said, " I think it is a complicated subject, and I'm not set in stone on my ideas in this area. You can "legislate" morality to a certain extent, but obviously not fully, and I think we need to choose which battles to fight for, considering it from every angle. I think that partial birth abortion should definitely be illegal, but earlier abortions should not be illegal. But some level of parental/guardian notification should be in place (it's ridiculous that you can't give kids an aspirin without parental consent, but that same kid can get an abortion), and standards of abortion clinics should be tightened - some of the things that happen in some clinics are atrocious."
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inked, do you have any numbers about what percentage of abortions are performed due to the risk of real, physical harm to the mother?
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Maybe his problems are not because he hates himself for being a product of rape, and maybe they are, but I'm tellin' ya, that poor tortured soul can figure it out on his own. I am not a believer in the professional victim thing, the whole "it's not my fault I'm a murderous bastard because I was raised cruelly" or whatever. BAH!!! All I'm tryna say, is that he's the only person I know of who I know was a product of rape, and it must have had SOMEthing to do with his immense psychological problems, don't you think it might be a small possibility????
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I think it's a possibility, and it's certainly true that our actions, good or bad, affect others, often very far down the line.
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copout, no... i'd call it an ability to distinguish between reality and ideals... and if you don't believe that, read my sig
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* i don't think it was a copout or cow manure, either*
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BJ, it was a cop out, Dude. And, given the size of the mushrooms growing on it, I think the argument for manure is pretty good! Besides, your argument is out of date and ineffective because I SAY SO. (Hey, if it works for you, why can't it work for me? )
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Actually, I've never seen mushrooms growing on cow manure. I think there is too much light - spores are very sensitive to UV rays.
Edit: No... it probably isn't the light thing. Maybe the type of fungal decomposers that live in cow pies don't have fruiting bodies... or maybe there's too much variation in moisture content. Yeah, that one sounds more plausible.
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let's keep this discussion on the issues, not the posters
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