06-26-2002, 09:09 AM | #261 |
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I like Eowyn better than Arwen. Eowyn is brave and pure hearted enough to fight for her country.
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06-26-2002, 09:56 PM | #263 |
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Would Arwen go out into battle?
I mean by that is Eowyn went out to battle and took the chance. Arwen (I think)did not attempt to go out. I think she is pure hearted and would protect her country in anyway her father aloud her.
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06-27-2002, 12:41 AM | #264 |
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You're right.. but I guess I wouldn't phrase it that way..
I'm not trying to take away from her glory, but it wasn't bravery that drew her to battle, more like a broken heart that shoved her towards war. And also, when you say "took the chance" (I'm assuming you're referring to death).. it seems as if she feared for her life.. which she did not.
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I agree with you Mirahzi. I think Eowyn was slightly suicidal when she went into battle. She would have welcomed death.
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Hehe.. "slightly" is a bit of an understatement
One has to be a bit more than 'slightly suicidal' to openly defy the Nazgul Lord (Except, of course, in rare cases)
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06-27-2002, 01:23 AM | #268 |
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Eowyn clearly sought death in battle due to her unrequited love of Aragorn. So yes she was "suicidal." She also remarks to Faramir in the House of Healing that she "will be a shieldmaiden no more" when she realizes that she has fallen in love with him (Faramir). But criminally insane I think not. Also, I think her facing down the Lord of the Nazgul was motivated by her love of Theoden more than her desire for death. That desire drove her to take on the persona of Dernhelm but it was a more noble instinct that led her to defend Theoden. IMHO...
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I said that last part as an exaggeration, and didn't really expect anyone to take it seriously. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
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06-27-2002, 04:49 PM | #270 |
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The other's sole
In me country people often say:
" the other's soul is darkness" As for me, I think than Eowyn's behaviour can be called suicidal. Though, she didn' want to comiete a suicide as itself, she just supposed it the best way for herself. That's the result of brainless, nothing to do with this case.
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06-27-2002, 05:57 PM | #271 |
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i don't blame her for suicide. many people think about it. But she really did not like to be left back during war.
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06-27-2002, 06:11 PM | #272 |
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I like Eowyn better. Arwen seems, too perfect. I think Arwen sems more of the sit at home sewing kind of person. Eowyn seems kind of the oppisite of that.
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Arwen wanted to help Aragorn,so she helped him in the only way she could.
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06-28-2002, 01:18 PM | #275 |
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Eowyn is some kind of typical Rider, their face. And Arwen's thee same for Elves. D'you all mean that you like Riders more then Elves??????? And if you're arguing about what kind of woman do you like more, the point is that there are a lot of ways to show bravery! It's a stupid thing to think it was bravery - the reason why Eowyn left home. She was afraid of her fate, and she chose the most simple way to end it. It wasn't bravery.
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Dear Radagast!
I am sure that any rider in Eowyn's shoes would do the same! Wonder if Eomer would stay at home, or Hama. They'd ALL do like this!
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Not all,mabye only the House of Eorl.
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yea
o'coz I mean this, but does it change the sence????
Any nation has different people
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I think people are being a little harsh on Arwen given that we know so little about her. Everybody fawns over Glorfindel but he stayed in Rivendell. I don't think we know enough about Arwen to say that she was this way or that (though I find it hard to believe that any elf, regardless of gender, would be a wilting flower).
It's perfectly understandable why people tend to prefer Eowyn; she's a more fully developed character in the narrative.
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