Lore Masters' Quote Game - Part 1 - Page 14

***Earniel*** · 07-27-2009, 03:59 PM

If I got the scene right where the quote comes from, the first word is 'Vinitharya'?

***Valandil*** · 07-28-2009, 08:44 PM

That is the correct solution to the quote.

Only the speaker, we need.

***Valandil*** · 08-18-2009, 08:38 AM

Over three weeks and still no tried on the speaker.

Shall we just move on?

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 08-18-2009, 11:36 AM

I think Eärniel deserves the win since he came up with Vinitharya. I don't have a clue about the scene or speaker.

***Varnafindë*** · 08-18-2009, 12:18 PM

She's implying that she knows the scene. She's the closest so far, and gave the last answer. I have no idea about the source of this - not even what book it comes from ...

***Valandil*** · 08-18-2009, 02:49 PM

If Earniel wants it - she can post next.

(Earniel - if you do not, say so and we can open the floor to anyone)

Speaker: a little tricky, because no proper name is given and it isn't an individual, but a group.

The setting is Gondor in the middle of the Third Age, and this statement demonstrates the feelings about King Eldacar which led to the usurpation by Castamir and the subsequent Kin-Strife (though the statement came while his father, Valacar, was still King).

The best we really have for speaker is, "... many of those who declared that they would never accept as king a man half of foreign race, born in an alien country."

as stated in HoME 12, Peoples of Middle Earth, chapter on "The Making of Appendix A", page 261 in my hardbound edition.

I would have taken anything halfway close though.

***Earniel*** · 08-18-2009, 03:08 PM

I guessed the scene, but didn't know the speaker (figures, since he wasn't named and I was expecting a named person) and didn't want to peek. Just so you'd know I wasn't doing it to escape having to post a quote.

Anyway, it might be a few days before I can lay hands on my English books, so I'd say: anyone who would want a go, go for it. And otherwise, I will post a quote when I'm able, somewhere within the next few days.

***Earniel*** · 08-31-2009, 06:49 AM

Aaaand I forgot.

"W_e_/w_i_h_y/_a_t_r_/a_e/_n/_e_a_e/,/_i_h_a_d_r/,/_/w_n_e_/a/_i_t_e/
_h_t/_o_/s_o_l_/p_a_/w_t_/y_u_/t_y_/o_/f_r_/a_d/_m_k_/,/w_i_e/_t_e_s/
_r_/i_/e_r_e_t/_p_e_h/."

***Valandil*** · 08-31-2009, 08:37 AM

"When /w_i_h_y/_a_t_r_/a_e/_n/_e_a_e/,/_i_h_a_d_r/,/_/w_n_e_/a/_i_t_e/
that you should play with your toys of fire and smoke, while others
are in earnest /_p_e_h."

***Earniel*** · 08-31-2009, 02:16 PM

Correct so far.

***Valandil*** · 08-31-2009, 03:27 PM

'...Mithrandir, I wonder a little...'?

Is it 'earnest speech'?

***Earniel*** · 08-31-2009, 04:37 PM

Correct again.

***Varnafindë*** · 08-31-2009, 05:38 PM

/weighty/matters/are/on

I think the speaker is Saruman.

***Valandil*** · 08-31-2009, 06:09 PM

if not 'on' - maybe 'in'?

Is 'debate' the other word?

***Earniel*** · 09-01-2009, 07:55 AM

When weighty matters are in debate, Mithrandir, I wonder a little that you should play with your toys of fire and smoke, while others are in earnest speech."

Solved! Saruman is indeed the speaker.

Your turn, Val.

***Valandil*** · 09-01-2009, 12:56 PM

"I/_m/_l_/a_d/_a_b_e/,/_a_t_r/./_i_d/_e/_o_/!
/B_t/_h_u_h/_t/_e/_l_a_a_t/_o/_p_a_/t_e/_l_/
t_n_u_/w_t_/o_e/_h_t/_p_a_s/_t/_a_r/_s/_n/_i_e_/p_s_/,
/t_e/_a_s/_r_/i_l/_n_/o_e/_u_t/_e/_a_y/.
/_o_/a_l/_h_t/_p_a_/t_e/_a_r/_o_g_e/_r_/f_i_/a_/h_a_t."

***Valandil*** · 09-01-2009, 01:09 PM

Oops! Sorry if anyone saw it - but when I first posted that, I left all the letters in.

***Earniel*** · 09-01-2009, 02:04 PM

Yes, I accidentally read it in the notification mails, so I will be passing up on this round.

***Varnafindë*** · 09-01-2009, 02:59 PM

/the/days/are/ill/and/one/must/be/wary/.

***Valandil*** · 09-01-2009, 03:17 PM

Varnafinde - correct solve for line 4.

07-27-2009, 03:59 PM	#261
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	If I got the scene right where the quote comes from, the first word is 'Vinitharya'? __________________ We are not things.

07-28-2009, 08:44 PM	#262
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	That is the correct solution to the quote. Only the speaker, we need. __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

08-18-2009, 08:38 AM	#263
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Over three weeks and still no tried on the speaker. Shall we just move on? __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

08-18-2009, 11:36 AM	#264
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	I think Eärniel deserves the win since he came up with Vinitharya. I don't have a clue about the scene or speaker. __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

08-18-2009, 12:18 PM	#265
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	She's implying that she knows the scene. She's the closest so far, and gave the last answer. I have no idea about the source of this - not even what book it comes from ... __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

08-18-2009, 02:49 PM	#266
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	If Earniel wants it - she can post next. (Earniel - if you do not, say so and we can open the floor to anyone) Speaker: a little tricky, because no proper name is given and it isn't an individual, but a group. The setting is Gondor in the middle of the Third Age, and this statement demonstrates the feelings about King Eldacar which led to the usurpation by Castamir and the subsequent Kin-Strife (though the statement came while his father, Valacar, was still King). The best we really have for speaker is, "... many of those who declared that they would never accept as king a man half of foreign race, born in an alien country." as stated in HoME 12, Peoples of Middle Earth, chapter on "The Making of Appendix A", page 261 in my hardbound edition. I would have taken anything halfway close though. __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

08-18-2009, 03:08 PM	#267
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	I guessed the scene, but didn't know the speaker (figures, since he wasn't named and I was expecting a named person) and didn't want to peek. Just so you'd know I wasn't doing it to escape having to post a quote. Anyway, it might be a few days before I can lay hands on my English books, so I'd say: anyone who would want a go, go for it. And otherwise, I will post a quote when I'm able, somewhere within the next few days. __________________ We are not things.

08-31-2009, 06:49 AM	#268
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Aaaand I forgot. "W_e_/w_i_h_y/_a_t_r_/a_e/_n/_e_a_e/,/_i_h_a_d_r/,/_/w_n_e_/a/_i_t_e/ _h_t/_o_/s_o_l_/p_a_/w_t_/y_u_/t_y_/o_/f_r_/a_d/_m_k_/,/w_i_e/_t_e_s/ _r_/i_/e_r_e_t/_p_e_h/." __________________ We are not things.

08-31-2009, 08:37 AM	#269
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	"When /w_i_h_y/_a_t_r_/a_e/_n/_e_a_e/,/_i_h_a_d_r/,/_/w_n_e_/a/_i_t_e/ that you should play with your toys of fire and smoke, while others are in earnest /_p_e_h." __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

08-31-2009, 02:16 PM	#270
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Correct so far. __________________ We are not things.

08-31-2009, 03:27 PM	#271
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	'...Mithrandir, I wonder a little...'? Is it 'earnest speech'? __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

08-31-2009, 04:37 PM	#272
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Correct again. __________________ We are not things.

08-31-2009, 05:38 PM	#273
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	/weighty/matters/are/on I think the speaker is Saruman. __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

08-31-2009, 06:09 PM	#274
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	if not 'on' - maybe 'in'? Is 'debate' the other word? __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

09-01-2009, 07:55 AM	#275
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	When weighty matters are in debate, Mithrandir, I wonder a little that you should play with your toys of fire and smoke, while others are in earnest speech." Solved! Saruman is indeed the speaker. Your turn, Val. __________________ We are not things.

09-01-2009, 12:56 PM	#276
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	"I/_m/_l_/a_d/_a_b_e/,/_a_t_r/./_i_d/_e/_o_/! /B_t/_h_u_h/_t/_e/_l_a_a_t/_o/_p_a_/t_e/_l_/ t_n_u_/w_t_/o_e/_h_t/_p_a_s/_t/_a_r/_s/_n/_i_e_/p_s_/, /t_e/_a_s/_r_/i_l/_n_/o_e/_u_t/_e/_a_y/. /_o_/a_l/_h_t/_p_a_/t_e/_a_r/_o_g_e/_r_/f_i_/a_/h_a_t." __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

09-01-2009, 01:09 PM	#277
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Oops! Sorry if anyone saw it - but when I first posted that, I left all the letters in. __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

09-01-2009, 02:04 PM	#278
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Yes, I accidentally read it in the notification mails, so I will be passing up on this round. __________________ We are not things.

09-01-2009, 02:59 PM	#279
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	/the/days/are/ill/and/one/must/be/wary/. __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

09-01-2009, 03:17 PM	#280
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Varnafinde - correct solve for line 4. __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

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