Theology III

[Butterbeer]

er?

what's this thread about?

(i mean - heh- i don't mind - but anyone wanna fill me in?)

gay adoption? Adoption?

How do we tally the genetic moral rights of the natural order with an appreciation of the moral code both of Christians and non-christians that are morally good?

[hectorberlioz]

Originally Posted by sisterandcousinandaunt

that there aren't enough kids adopted right now. Too many languish in the system.

You REALLY need to stop putting in those headlines...chops off a lot of what you say when you're quoted

I don't care whether adoptive parents make the news...I care that kids get good families. And Gay families ARE good families.

I care that kids get good families too, but I disagree with that last sentence.

[Tessar]

While I believe that it is just as possible for a gay family to be a horrible family as it is for them to be a great family, the same could be said of any heterosexual family.

[sisterandcousinandaunt]

Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

I care that kids get good families too, but I disagree with that last sentence.

You don't know enough, then. I can hook you up with a PFLAG meeting somewhere in your area, if you wish to gain knowledge before having an opinion.

Of course, everyone has an opinion and an..., they say. Informed ones are harder to come by, and therefore, more valuable.

[sisterandcousinandaunt]

Originally Posted by Butterbeer

genetic moral rights of the natural order

you lost me on this term. Too much sugar today, maybe.
Care to explain?

[Butterbeer]

care to explain what the sugary appendicces we are talking about?

I mean ..ask a simple question ...

[sisterandcousinandaunt]

Originally Posted by Butterbeer

care to explain what the sugary appendicces we are talking about?

I mean ..ask a simple question ...

I love you, too.

[Butterbeer]

Is that not that the message of God?

[hectorberlioz]

Originally Posted by sisterandcousinandaunt

Of course, everyone has an opinion and an..., they say. Informed ones are harder to come by, and therefore, more valuable.

I do believe thats the greatest compliment I ever had, thank you Sis.

[Tessar]

Lets all watch the personal comments, please .

If you take issue with another person's opinion, please see that you provide proof to negate it rather than simply say that it is invalid.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

BUT there is quite a divide among catholics as to coservatives/liberals.

That's not what Lotesse was referring to, I think. Traditionally, the Democratic party was THE party for Catholics; it was only when they started supporting certain positions the Church finds unsavoury that the Republicans started getting a foothold.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally Posted by Lief Erikson

As for abortion and homosexual marriage, I disagree with you. President Bush did initiate a ban on partial birth abortion while in office, and he also prevented stem cell research from proceeding except with already dead cells, if I recall correctly.

President Bush also protested the full abortion ban in South Dakota. He doesn't want abortion done away with, just limited.

And also, there's the thing that prolife means more than anti-abortion...

[hectorberlioz]

Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

That's not what Lotesse was referring to, I think. Traditionally, the Democratic party was THE party for Catholics; it was only when they started supporting certain positions the Church finds unsavoury that the Republicans started getting a foothold.

I acknowledged that

[sisterandcousinandaunt]

Originally Posted by Tessar

Lets all watch the personal comments, please .

If you take issue with another person's opinion, please see that you provide proof to negate it rather than simply say that it is invalid.

Tessar, this is the Theology thread.

Exactly where would one get 'proof' for disagreeing with someone? My "directrevelationcam" isn't compatible with Windows.

For example, I said, "too many adoptable kids languish in the system." Now, if someone chose to challenge me on that, we'd get down to a debate over how MANY kids languishing in the system would be 'just enough.' Even if our debate centered solely on details of doctrine, there's always room for another angel on that pin, kwim?

So when I say hector, with more information, would reach another conclusion, I feel confident of that.

And he's a big boy. He blows me the raspberry often, when we disagree.

No harm, no foul, I hope.

[Tessar]

Exactly where would one get 'proof' for disagreeing with someone? My "directrevelationcam" isn't compatible with Windows.

Thank God I'm on a Mac, then! Mwah .


My statement was due to the fact that I've had some complaints before about personal comments being thrown around, and I simply wish to try to head off any avoidable bad-feelings if I can.



Plus it's been -DAYS- since I've gotten to use the Big Voice of Judgment and Admanlyness. I'm bored!

[sisterandcousinandaunt]

Originally Posted by Tessar

My statement was due to the fact that I've had some complaints before about personal comments being thrown around, and I simply wish to try to head off any avoidable bad-feelings if I can.

I'm a mess to manage...always have been.

And I know I routinely make Rian see red, for example, because she thinks I'm unnecessarily mean to Lief. Well, Lief called me a liar to my face on the full board, about the 2nd day I got here, so I didn't really get "Marquis of Queensbury" as my first impression of him, kwim? But still, I feel bad when I see I've set her off again.

But I try, as per the instructions, to use enough smilies (out of our paucity of choice ) to indicate that I'm a happy person with a slight "poke it with a stick" habit.

Plus it's been -DAYS- since I've gotten to use the Big Voice of Judgment and Admanlyness. I'm bored!

Saying "Step away from the keyboard and go to bed, then, silly" would be flaming, wouldn't it.

[Rían]

eh, it's not "unnecessarily mean" - it's personal insults, and it's not necessarily Lief or you, it's ANYONE that I think is being personally insulted by ANYONE. There's a lady here that hates my guts and has told me so many times to my (virtual) face, yet I've defended her before and would do so again in a second if I thought she was being wrongly attacked. I didn't see the liar thing from Lief, though - I was staying away from that thread for awhile and missed it, I guess.

The smilies help - typed communication is hard!!!

Anyway, I hope you can see that I don't bear grudges I just say what I think I gotta say, and it's over.

[Rían]

Originally Posted by sisterandcousinandaunt

Tessar, this is the Theology thread.

Exactly where would one get 'proof' for disagreeing with someone?

IT depends on what the person is saying.

Your sentence seemed to indiate that ALL gay families are good families, and I thought that's what hector was saying was wrong. I suppose it would be fairly easy to prove that NOT all gay families are good families by finding someone in a gay family who has abused their kid.

[brownjenkins]

Originally Posted by Lief Erikson

Abortion is the most crucial moral issue facing our country, from my perspective, and is far more important than poverty.

I wonder if you would say that if you were starving or working 80+ hours a week to support your children.

Abortion is one, if not the, most overrated non-issue in US politics.

[hectorberlioz]

Originally Posted by sisterandcousinandaunt

And he's a big boy.

A little below average height, actually.