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Old 05-06-2008, 04:27 AM   #241
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They're probably right.

Meanwhile, in the real world,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7384858.stm

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Old 05-06-2008, 04:44 AM   #242
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I saw it on the news yesterday.

And this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7383837.stm

You know, this thread has some quite depressing entries...
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:18 PM   #243
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Probably because we live in a depressing world.
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:29 PM   #244
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No, 't is basically a beautiful world with just a lot of bad things. Or so I prefer to think. >_<
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:39 PM   #245
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One of my favorite poems gives my opinion on this:

Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be.
And whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life,
keep peace in your soul.

With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world...


From 'Desiderata'
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:47 PM   #246
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Oh, I like that! It's a good philosophy. Thanks Rinkë
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:49 PM   #247
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"Dust in the wind, all we are is dust in the wind"

So we'll just have to enjoy the fleeting flight as a spec in the wind of life as long as it lasts
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:50 PM   #248
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One of my favorite poems gives my opinion on this:

Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be.
And whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life,
keep peace in your soul.

With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world...


From 'Desiderata'
And that is an excellent quote

Ah the lure of the 90 seconds!
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Old 05-06-2008, 03:48 PM   #249
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Well, here's a quote from me:

"Vanity of vanities, all is vanity, and chasing after the wind."
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:29 PM   #250
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The paparrazzi are gonna have a tougher time in jolly old England...

http://www.reuters.com/article/media...33564520080507

Bet it'll apply to royals on down.
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Old 05-11-2008, 03:47 AM   #251
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This is the worst news I've read.. ever.
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ur...cle2417866.ece

Basically says the death toll could reach, embrace yourself, 1,5 million deaths if serious, urgent action isn't taken in Burma over the next couple of weeks.

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Old 05-11-2008, 05:16 AM   #252
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And of course the @!#$%@#$ running the government are doing their best to try and stop aid getting to their own people- and China and Indonesia are backing them at the Security Council.

Their old name really suited them- the SLORC. It sounds like an evil creeping blood-sucking slime-monster.
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Old 05-11-2008, 07:50 AM   #253
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It's disturbing and very very sad.
Those soldiers, don't they have family that is starving somewhere? Don't they want to help them? Are they really that brainwashed?!

At least there is still some aid getting in:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7394410.stm
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:05 AM   #254
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And of course the @!#$%@#$ running the government are doing their best to try and stop aid getting to their own people- and China and Indonesia are backing them at the Security Council.

Their old name really suited them- the SLORC. It sounds like an evil creeping blood-sucking slime-monster.
Well this time it does seem like the Chinese are trying to put pressure on them. Hopefully they won't hold back.

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It's disturbing and very very sad.
Those soldiers, don't they have family that is starving somewhere? Don't they want to help them? Are they really that brainwashed?!

At least there is still some aid getting in:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7394410.stm
It's just unreal. And I spoke to a girlfriend of mine in pol. science, who wrote a paper on them this semester, and she tells me that regime is so frighteningly paranoid that it will keep to itself in the new capital it has built (they just Made a city in 2005, it's just enormous concrete buildings, Soviet-style) which serves one purpose: To make sure the regime is safe from its own people (!!!) I do believe many of the army people have family affected, but who knows how mad the machinery of the state & army really is.. They might be prepared to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of lives to stay in power. I have no doubt about that, as history shows.

TIME wrote an article today wondering whether the world community should simply invade the country as 1.5 million deaths is completely unacceptable. I wonder..
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:10 AM   #255
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It would completely destabilize the entire area. All the surrounding not so stable countries will fear that the same might happen to them, they'll get more paranoid and try to consolidate their power, secure internal problems with more vigor and in doing so violate even more human rights.

It's basically the whole Tibet-China or Taiwan-China problem again.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:21 AM   #256
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At least it's important that the international community, headed by the UN, steps up and speaks out with unmistakable clarity.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:27 AM   #257
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Hmmm, yeah. They should tell them that aid is meant for everyone, not just for the junta. Forcing something... I'm 99% certain that it won't have any desired result.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:32 AM   #258
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Well personally I think any attempt to invade would spell an even greater disaster. But in such instances we need action, and so I hope these air-drops they are speaking of is made reality. The basic problem is that such a disaster needs massive involvement by so many people, and if the Burmese gov't is unwilling then the only choice left must be to empower the victims themselves, sending loads of aid from the air.
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:16 PM   #259
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Yes, starting a military campaign that would surely result in civilian deaths so that we can provide aid to keep civilians from dying has a ring of illogicality to me. And whats sad is that their state news organization spends all their time reporting on the new referendum the junta is pushing, showing general after general and their wives going up to vote. Then only after that do they show coverage of some soldiers handing out bags of rice to a few people followed by a declaration that they have the problem completely under control...
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Interesting information on the price of gasoline and current USA incomes...

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2008/05/...ven-close.html
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