Wheel of Time discussions - Page 13

Acalewia · 05-20-2006, 10:41 AM

I think I'm starting to see the Ta'veren in Perrin. I'm prob not going to read new spring until I'm through with the series. Unless I'm done with book 11 before Memory of Light comes out

Curubethion · 05-21-2006, 10:44 PM

Perrin is most definitely a ta'veren, although it shows in more subtle ways than in Rand and Mat. I love Mat's ta'veren ability.

You really don't want to read New Spring until you're well into the series, preferably past about Book 9 or so.

And...I've finally done it. Knife of Dreams. A fairly good book, not as good as Crown of Swords, but with some great setup action. And I loved the big battle with the Trollocs-yes, the Trollocs return! And Rand gets to do even better stuff this time!

Curubethion · 05-22-2006, 04:22 PM

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...n/d8158e92.jpg
This is a little picture I did, inspired by everyone's favorite gambling ta'veren! Hope you like it!

Acalewia · 05-22-2006, 05:35 PM

Isn't that the Old Tounge? And what does it say?

Curubethion · 05-22-2006, 06:05 PM

Yup, that's the Old Tongue. It's Mat's favorite saying: "It's time to roll the dice."
I took special care to get all the pips right...RJ has a cool way of doing them.

Acalewia · 05-22-2006, 06:14 PM

That's cool

Curubethion · 05-22-2006, 08:46 PM

I also stuck some Mat symbols in there: the ruby-hilted dagger on top, and nine moons on the bottom. (The moons become very important later on)

Acalewia · 05-23-2006, 01:31 PM

I've been wondering why people keep say "Nine Moons" and "Mat" in the same sentence.

Curubethion · 05-23-2006, 09:57 PM

It's from a prophecy found in, I think, Fires of Heaven (I might be wrong...I always mix up those snakey people...Aelfinn and Eelfinn, I think...). It becomes a pretty important sub-plot.

Acalewia · 05-25-2006, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Acalewia

I think I just figured out why there are three thread benders. (I know the word i just can't spell it

) One is Dragon Reborn, One is He Who Comes With the Dawn, and One is the Cormoor. This is just a guess. I'll find out if I'm right.

Scrach that! I know I'm wrong now

Curubethion · 05-25-2006, 02:03 PM

Ah, don't worry about it. It was an interesting idea, though. I never thought of it that way.

Here's a question to mull over: why does The Eye of the World have so many minor parallels to Lord of the Rings (Moiraine-Gandalf, Shadar Logoth-Moria, Rand/Mat/Perrin-Aragorn/Legolas/Gimli, Thom Merrilin-Tom Bombadil, Horn of Valere-Boromir's Horn), and why aren't there parallels like this in the later books?

Also, what do you think of the parallels between some of the main characters and Norse gods?

b.banner · 05-25-2006, 03:55 PM

almost done with Crown Of Swords. i loved Lord of Chaos!Crown of Swords is really good so far!!

Curubethion · 05-25-2006, 05:14 PM

I think I've said this before, but Crown has the best climax moment of them all. It's my favorite book.

Acalewia · 05-26-2006, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curubethion

Here's a question to mull over: why does The Eye of the World have so many minor parallels to Lord of the Rings (Moiraine-Gandalf, Shadar Logoth-Moria, Rand/Mat/Perrin-Aragorn/Legolas/Gimli, Thom Merrilin-Tom Bombadil, Horn of Valere-Boromir's Horn), and why aren't there parallels like this in the later books?

I see I'm not the only one to notice that. Of course I thought of Lan-Aragorn him being an uncrowned King.

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Also, what do you think of the parallels between some of the main characters and Norse gods?

I never thought of that

Curubethion · 06-04-2006, 01:59 PM

Acally, where are you in the series now? There's a major WoT plot that everyone talks about that happens in FoH. Let's just say...it's Wheel of Time meets Clue.

Acalewia · 06-05-2006, 03:53 PM

Finishing up with SR. I just bought one and I can't remember which one it was.

Acalewia · 06-12-2006, 03:19 PM

Ok just finished SR, is it me or does Rand have a duel at the end of each book? And I have another theory(

)

Each duel is with a Forsaken!

How exactly did Nyneve block herself? Was it when they met the Seachan the first time?
I heard someone say that one of the events in FoHinvolving

Moriane and Lanfear

Don't tell me, I'll find out myself

I bought Crossroads of Twilight and New Spring

Curubethion · 06-12-2006, 07:14 PM

Rand ends pretty much every book with a duel...except for Book 10. And Book 9, although some might dispute that. You'll get what I mean when you get there.

And Nynaeve blocked herself because she was a wilder. Any woman who learns to channel on her own, without guidance, develops a block. This helps them to deny the fact that they're channeling, if only to themselves. Nynaeve's block is that she can't channel unless she's angry. An Accepted named Theodrin used to be a wilder, and she had an unusual block: she couldn't channel unless a boy was in the room.

Nynaeve was blocked long before the books began. That whole time she was a Wisdom, she was able to channel. She just didn't know it. That's why she was a Wisdom.

Hey, like my new siggy?

Acalewia · 06-12-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Curubethion

An Accepted named Theodrin used to be a wilder, and she had an unusual block: she couldn't channel unless a boy was in the room.

That is funny. Thanks for clearing that up for me

Quote:

Hey, like my new siggy?

I meant to say something about that.

Its a true statement... and funny

Curubethion · 06-12-2006, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acalewia

I meant to say something about that.

Its a true statement... and funny

Plus, RJ said it!

I can't wait until you get to the end of the series...there's so many things that happen! And you won't believe all the crazy theories that are out there!

Oh, and that someone is right about the event in Fires of Heaven. That's not the event I was referring too. Hopefully, you didn't hear too much about the event.

05-20-2006, 10:41 AM	#241
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	I think I'm starting to see the Ta'veren in Perrin. I'm prob not going to read new spring until I'm through with the series. Unless I'm done with book 11 before Memory of Light comes out __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

05-21-2006, 10:44 PM	#242
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	Perrin is most definitely a ta'veren, although it shows in more subtle ways than in Rand and Mat. I love Mat's ta'veren ability. You really don't want to read New Spring until you're well into the series, preferably past about Book 9 or so. And...I've finally done it. Knife of Dreams. A fairly good book, not as good as Crown of Swords, but with some great setup action. And I loved the big battle with the Trollocs-yes, the Trollocs return! And Rand gets to do even better stuff this time! __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

05-22-2006, 04:22 PM	#243
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...n/d8158e92.jpg This is a little picture I did, inspired by everyone's favorite gambling ta'veren! Hope you like it! __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

05-22-2006, 05:35 PM	#244
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	Isn't that the Old Tounge? And what does it say? __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

05-22-2006, 06:05 PM	#245
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	Yup, that's the Old Tongue. It's Mat's favorite saying: "It's time to roll the dice." I took special care to get all the pips right...RJ has a cool way of doing them. __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

05-22-2006, 06:14 PM	#246
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	That's cool __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

05-22-2006, 08:46 PM	#247
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	I also stuck some Mat symbols in there: the ruby-hilted dagger on top, and nine moons on the bottom. (The moons become very important later on) __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

05-23-2006, 01:31 PM	#248
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	I've been wondering why people keep say "Nine Moons" and "Mat" in the same sentence. __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

05-23-2006, 09:57 PM	#249
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	It's from a prophecy found in, I think, Fires of Heaven (I might be wrong...I always mix up those snakey people...Aelfinn and Eelfinn, I think...). It becomes a pretty important sub-plot. __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

05-25-2006, 02:03 PM	#251
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	Ah, don't worry about it. It was an interesting idea, though. I never thought of it that way. Here's a question to mull over: why does The Eye of the World have so many minor parallels to Lord of the Rings (Moiraine-Gandalf, Shadar Logoth-Moria, Rand/Mat/Perrin-Aragorn/Legolas/Gimli, Thom Merrilin-Tom Bombadil, Horn of Valere-Boromir's Horn), and why aren't there parallels like this in the later books? Also, what do you think of the parallels between some of the main characters and Norse gods? __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

05-25-2006, 03:55 PM	#252
b.banner Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Trying to keep a hold on my temper so I don't turn into a big green guy. Posts: 572	almost done with Crown Of Swords. i loved Lord of Chaos!Crown of Swords is really good so far!! __________________ "We are going to tickle some Aes Sedai under the chin, rescue a mule, and put a snip-nosed girl on the Lion Throne. Oh, yes. That's Aviendha. Don't look at her cross-wise or she'll try to cut your throat and probably slit her own by mistake."-Mat Cauthon from Wheel of Time "Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry...."-Dr. Bruce Banner HULK BATMAN THE FLASH

05-25-2006, 05:14 PM	#253
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	I think I've said this before, but Crown has the best climax moment of them all. It's my favorite book. __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

06-04-2006, 01:59 PM	#255
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	Acally, where are you in the series now? There's a major WoT plot that everyone talks about that happens in FoH. Let's just say...it's Wheel of Time meets Clue. __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

06-05-2006, 03:53 PM	#256
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	Finishing up with SR. I just bought one and I can't remember which one it was. __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

06-12-2006, 07:14 PM	#258
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	Rand ends pretty much every book with a duel...except for Book 10. And Book 9, although some might dispute that. You'll get what I mean when you get there. And Nynaeve blocked herself because she was a wilder. Any woman who learns to channel on her own, without guidance, develops a block. This helps them to deny the fact that they're channeling, if only to themselves. Nynaeve's block is that she can't channel unless she's angry. An Accepted named Theodrin used to be a wilder, and she had an unusual block: she couldn't channel unless a boy was in the room. Nynaeve was blocked long before the books began. That whole time she was a Wisdom, she was able to channel. She just didn't know it. That's why she was a Wisdom. Hey, like my new siggy? __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

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