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09-25-2008, 01:50 PM | #242 | |
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09-25-2008, 02:08 PM | #243 | |
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Theoretically, anyone born within a small swim of Texas is "a potential member of my society". When does my legal responsibility to house and feed them begin?
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09-25-2008, 02:24 PM | #244 | |
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09-25-2008, 02:58 PM | #245 | |
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I realise I misspelt the good man's name in my previous post, will edit.
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09-25-2008, 04:59 PM | #246 |
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Murder...Morally Wrong and why...
Rape or no rape, love or no love...the cell becomes a human. it is ALIVE. all life if precious, no matter the state it is in. I wonder...do you all know that where I live women are aloud to have abortions when their child is 8 months?!!? CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS IS GOING ON? Even a five month old baby has a chance at life. Abortion is morally wrong and is murder. It also affects the women. Women go into depression and guilt for YEARS. Help save a life and please help stop the Massacre of Abortion.
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09-25-2008, 05:02 PM | #247 | |
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EAR, I'm going to try to be nice here, as I think you're obviously pretty young. Posts like this aren't really appropriate in debate threads. You're coming across more like a crusader than a debater, and using the words and caps, etc. is going to make people angry. People don't necessarily agree with you, and have good reasons for not agreeing with you. Having passion is a good thing, but please try to tone it down a bit before you start a flame war? *bites tongue before she says more*
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09-25-2008, 05:06 PM | #248 |
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can i not give my opinion? maybe it is a subject worth debating. why start a thread without thinking people with have strong feelings. It would be extremely wrong of me NOT to express an opinion on something that IS NOT RIGHT.
....plus I've had one of my own, and its something I want all girls to avoid... |
09-25-2008, 05:07 PM | #249 |
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It is not right to you.
And I never said you couldn't express your opinion. Just knock off the caps and the exclamation points, and try to be reasonable about it!
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09-25-2008, 05:12 PM | #250 |
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What is your opinion on this?
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09-25-2008, 05:13 PM | #251 |
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If you'd read any of this thread at all, you would know my opinion on abortion.
I am proud to say that I am 100% pro-choice.
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09-25-2008, 05:15 PM | #252 |
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Reasons? What do you think about the children being aborted 8 months?
Would you kill an 8 month out of the womb too? |
09-25-2008, 05:16 PM | #253 |
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Reasons? Let me state them before you do, make it easier on you, okay? I'm a horrible heathen baby killer and I'm going straight to hell. Really - would you even listen if I gave my true reasons?
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09-25-2008, 05:18 PM | #254 |
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My own abortion
I would really. Remember, I've had an abortion. She was 4 months.
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09-25-2008, 05:23 PM | #255 |
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And I'm sorry - because abortion is a tragedy. I don't think anyone on either side of the debate would argue that it isn't. I hope you got the support you needed and are coping alright.
I'm pro-choice because I don't think it's the place of the government to intrude on such a personal and private matter. The government should not be telling people when to have babies, or when not to have babies. The perfect solution would, of course, be a sex-education program that makes abortion a moot point - a program that teaches children both the dangers of sex as well as the best ways at preventing pregnancy if they choose to be sexually active. Not abstinence only - but a comprehensive sex-ed program that covers all ends. But as long as the GOP refuses to do this, their stand against both abortion and birth control is unconscionable. You can't have one or the other. You can't tell kids that they can't have abortions, but not teach them how to prevent pregnancy. It's unfair in a myriad of ways.
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09-25-2008, 06:18 PM | #256 |
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Yes, idealy a law against abortions would be perfect i believe. But i am also realistic. Its never going to happen. Right now we need to build societies that teach to wait for love and provide organizations that will help with women that have guilt after their abortion.
My only way of getting through the abortion was having help. I went through a serious depression and STILL have dream of my child. Life iwth out her is hard, and I know its my fault. It is VERY IMPORTANT---sry i know its caps-----to have set ups like these |
09-25-2008, 06:36 PM | #257 |
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This might be an impertinent question, EAR, but if you're so against abortions why did you have one in the first place? Or are you against them now because you had one?
Just trying to clarify... but feel free not to answer if anything's too personal
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09-25-2008, 06:41 PM | #258 |
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I want to share EVERYTHING.
My bf and i were 'close' and he 'love me'. We were together when I was a sophomore (last yr) and I was pregnant in september. when i found out i told him. He left me and I didnt want my parents to know about the child. I got a free abortion (the advertisement said free abortions untill christmas..sick eh?). I lost it after that. Im now a junior and am still healing, but am much better. |
09-25-2008, 06:42 PM | #259 |
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And so now you are against them because of your own personal experience with having one?
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09-25-2008, 06:50 PM | #260 |
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yes. my child is dead. i murder her. and my metal anguish after was unbearable
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