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I'm sorry - I think you saw my post, saw how it blew a hole in your argument and you THEN went back to make an edit to close the hole. You have done that on several occassions. Therefore I will NOT be changing my quote.
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It's just an edit! (we need a less spastic eek face for right here)
Anyway, what did you think of my big giant post guys? (Had responses for JD and RÃ*an.) We seem to have scared off all the other Mooters. Apologies!
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Hree is a site with links where you can listen to the chanted mass - but currently the audio is down or something - http://www.mliles.com/melkite/divineliturgy.shtml Anyway - the site does provide information about the Greek Catholic church also. Quote:
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I thought it was within a minute or two. I guess it was longer. So what? So maybe I didn't want to mention I went to the bathroom during those 11 minutes I was editing the post! Either quote is fine by me. I prefer my edit, because I think it's clearer, but either quote is fine by me. Quote:
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I'm busy on the creationism thread now, I'll have to respond later. I did agree with one thing you said, tho - "However, what you have described (barring a few points) does not appear to be different from two people having a respectful marriage." I agree
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It's the "you have done that on several occasions" that I referred to as a false accusation.
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Perhaps I misunderstood you, JD. I'm very sorry if I did. I saw the "think" in the first sentence and appreciated it. Then the second sentence seemed to have a flat-out false accusation. I'm sorry if I overreacted and misunderstood you. I regret responding to your post, and won't do it again.
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I see you have posted again clarifying your misunderstanding - so your apology is accepted.
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And another fact is I never saw your post until after I finished my edit
I imagine this is because I never scrolled down; instead, I just hit the edit button at the bottom of my post to make some clarifications. As I said, either one is fine by me. Personally I think my edited version is "tougher" on me to support, but I don't care.
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I don't quite understand how "serve" and "respect" are interchangeable, tho. Could you please explain? To keep it very short, I think that most people would agree that women tend to be more relational. There's all sorts of studies that show that women are just better, in general, at this aspect of life. I like the playground study where words were counted that were spoken by boys and girls. The girls had MASSIVE amounts of words, and they were usually about relational subjects. The boys had ... noises! Airplane noises, car noises, etc. So in a general letter directed at general people, the apostle wrote (under God the designer's guidance) that men needed to concentrate on loving their wives in a way wives understand. Wives, apparently, do it more naturally And respect - in my experience, respect is more important to men than it is to women. In my experience, women prize relationships over respect, in general. And so in a general letter written to general people, the wives were asked to respect their husbands, because they don't do it as naturally as they express love, and respect is important to guys. Now, BOTH husband and wife need to respect each other. BOTH husband and wife need to love each other. But in this letter, written to a general group of people, the apostle was encouraging the wives to do what was not as natural to them, and the husbands to do what was not as natural to them. Do you see what I mean?
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How is respect more important to men? Woman may be more social than men - but men will usually die much younger after losing a spouse than a woman does. Therefore - I would consider the relationship to be VERY important to a man.
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If he had told me, "I'm your husband, and I order you to stop talking!", I would have refused. Or I would have said, "If you're too tired to talk now, I understand - please let me know as soon as you're able to talk, because I think it's a very important subject and we need to talk about it." My goal is NOT peace; it's love. And tough love, when necessary.
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Thanks for replying JD and RÃ*an. I went to the website JD. Very cool! But the small text on the cyan background hurts my eyes.
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If respect is not as important to the wife as the relationship then she should certainly take that into account. If it's of equal or greater importance, then she should take that into account. Neither the husband nor the wife need someone else to tell them how they feel. In my opinion a relationship is nothing without respect. To me, respect is the most important thing because I place great value on love and the reltaionship itself. But without respect, both love and the relationship are meaningless. (I see that JD has said this already. Perhaps we cross-posted. But I wasn't copying! ) Quote:
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Well, you seem to be of two minds. I'm confused. On the one hand, you seem to be stating that both the husband and wife need to respect each other. On the other hand, you suggest that the husband and wife must go about this in different ways. Is it these different ways, with accompanying respect, that form the idea of Biblical submission?
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Okay here I definitely cross-posted with you. Seems we're all in here at once. Party in the Theology thread!
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I was thinking about this getting a snack in the kitchen... if my husband ordered to me to stay home with the kids, I would probably tell him to get bent. But I might choose to stay at home for a while. At this point in my life I can't imagine staying home, but I can imagine myself having kids at some distant date. EDIT: We cross-posted again... Quote:
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