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11-15-2004, 05:49 PM | #242 | |
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11-15-2004, 06:17 PM | #243 |
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Rice and 'shine, a new day dawns.
New administration change spawns! I think Powell's intentions Are to be next on White House lawns!
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11-15-2004, 07:07 PM | #244 |
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ABC NY said that they have learned that Bush is nominating Condoleeza Rice as Secretary of State. I guess we'll see how right they are. Everyone else is just reporting it as a possibility.
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11-15-2004, 07:19 PM | #245 |
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*blink* *blink* gulp!
At least Powell didn't lie. Let me amend that, since a co-worker just pointed out that he made a case at the UN about Iraq's WMDs. I don't think he was lying at that time. I think he was fooled by bad intelligence. Last edited by Elfhelm : 11-15-2004 at 07:40 PM. |
11-15-2004, 10:15 PM | #246 | |
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But Im thinking Rumsfield must be happier now. We havent heard anything from his corner so I assume hes staying for now. And Goss has set his pit bulls on the CIA brass who werent on Bushes bandwagon to bring an end to the Abu Ghraib type leaks (as opposed to CIA leeks rian). Rumsfield will be able to operate with much less worry as to what gets out.
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11-15-2004, 10:31 PM | #247 | |
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11-16-2004, 10:37 AM | #248 |
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Well, IR, given my track record in political predictions over the years I've been paying attention.........
the best I can hope for is that it'll be like Sybill Trelawney's - one of the two right that i'v e made so far! (I did call Bush's re-election, and now this one ). I do think he will run as a Republican. And I do think Hillary Clinton will run. I personally think that the 2008 elections will pit the first black candidate against the first female candidate for President of the USA. It will be a corker!
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11-16-2004, 11:50 AM | #249 |
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My predictions:
Powell will not run for President in 2008, he will most likely just write a book and go back to making a ton of money making speeches. Rumsfield will step down within two months.
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11-16-2004, 11:58 AM | #250 |
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McCain will get the republican nomination and Powell the VP spot.
Julianni will run as well but will not do well in the south. Who will inherit Karl Rove?
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11-16-2004, 02:09 PM | #251 | |
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I think his pact with a certain lower dwelling prince will have expired by then and he will have to pay the piper.
Ah Mephestopheles! EDIT: Quote:
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11-16-2004, 03:11 PM | #252 |
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I think that Cheney will step down in 2 years and Condoleeza Rice will become VP for a possible run for the White House in 2008.
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11-16-2004, 03:37 PM | #253 |
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Whie I would like McCain to run in 2008, I don't think he will. He was on Leno sometime this month and Leno asked him about running. He replied with "In 2008 I'll be 2008." Still, one can hope...
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11-16-2004, 04:03 PM | #254 | |
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Will the Constitution be ammended in time for Ahnald to run? What a hoot. The SotU address done with an Austrian accent. Antonio Banderas could be VP. Condi as president? That's one way to swing the old slave states back to the dems. The ghost of Lincoln stalking the solid South once again. lol
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11-16-2004, 04:10 PM | #255 | |
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11-16-2004, 04:44 PM | #256 |
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Actually it is a biggotted statement towards black voters, IMHO. The implication is totally erroneous.
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BTW, I'm from Florida where there were still lynchings going on in the late fifties. I have family still there and am not unconnected witht the "residual feelings" there. Why did all those "Dixiecrats" switch parties? It's just reality that MANY southerns harbor racist feelings and hard feelings towards the desegregation/Civil War/integration. Quite a few who live in close contact with the large black populations in the south are MORE enlightened than those in the north and west living in >90% white states. Things are changing but the fact remains that race plays a large part in politics everywhere but even more so in the south where rural blacks are still disenfranchised through redisticting, poorly funded schools, and few large urban centers. You think that the civil rights act and a few decades of affimative action have eliminated racism and the effects of hundreds of years of racism, segregation, and enforced poverty? That would be like someone whose punched you in the face and robbed you every day for a year, saying, "I'm sorry", for a week, and then, "get over it", from then on. [Flame Deleted] Last edited by Sister Golden Hair
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11-16-2004, 05:05 PM | #258 |
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Condi is a cooperative with any choice Bush makes and so is Gonzo. The inner circle is tightening.
I don't think Cheney will step down. It's far more likely for Bush to be assassinated so Cheney can take over. Who would Cheney appoint to VP (subject to congressional approval)? Rummy, of course. That is the scariest thing I can imagine. Cheney and Rummy approved by the vote. Yes, I am a Democrat having nightmares. |
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As for that map - give me a break. Carole whats her name from ABC is just as racist for her comments during the "media roundtable". She's the one who brough that supposed "link" up. I can also show you maps where it shows that the us is spread out among democrats and republicans - even in the south. Republican does NOT equate to racist. And I"m tired of hearing you insinuate that constantly.
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