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No, politeness is about showing consideration for others. Either someone is polite, or impolite - that has nothing to do with whether they are politically correct.
Politeness means you treat someone with the respect view to an individual, Political Correctness means you judge people based on whether or not they agree with you. Political correctness doesn't involve politeness - that's why 'politically correct' people can be horribly rude and downright hateful to people who dissagree with them, and get away with it. It's about the subjugation of certain groups in order to glorify others.
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Instead of saying be "politically correct" to a bigoted comment or joke would it be ok to say "dont be a pig headed boob" without everyone getting their panties in a wad? would that solve things?
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Wow - all us guys are really hangin' out here today... 'cept for Anduril, who's making passes at the young girls!
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being "politically correct" is treating strangers the same way as you would treat friends... you take the time to think about what may or may not offend them, not what may or may not offend you it's about trying to not be too hung up on things for purely reasons of "principle" that said, it can certainly be taken too far... most would not care whether you used "black" or "african american"... but they might not appreciate other terms that are "just words"
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Yes and no.
Saying "dont be a pig headed boob" is great. That's something that I've said myself (in slightly different words). When someone crosses the line of good taste, you tell them that that's not cool. The problem with 'political correctness' is that it's an institution which is used, not to encourage reasonable ('polite') behavior, but to censor people of certain political/religious/philosophical outlooks by accusing them of being whatever when they speak their mind. It equates 'dissagreement' with 'hate' and then makes 'hate' a crime - so people who dissagree are commiting a crime. Changing the term used doesn't take care of the fundamental problem - the claim that anyone who holds a different viewpoint needs to be censored, for whatever reasaon.
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As for Clarence Thomas - I don't know much about him - or how he compared to other judges. I just know the sexual harrassment that came to light - whether that was true or not is another matter though.
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