Riddling IV - Page 13

***Valandil*** · 11-23-2010, 09:48 PM

Hah! And the place you took your QUOTE from!!!

Midge · 11-24-2010, 01:48 PM

That is indeed what I was thinking of - the first section describing the scene from the top of the waterfall and the second describing things from Gollum's point of view. I actually posted a quote in the other game thread that was from this same scene!

Edit: I didn't read Val's post - stinking new pages - but you caught me, Val!

Wilhelm · 11-25-2010, 08:53 PM

Quote:

First of five,
the beginning of the end.

A shot in the dark... Saruman. The first of the 5 Istari to arrive in Middle Earth was Saruman. The Istari brought about the end of Sauron.

Keith K · 11-25-2010, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

A shot in the dark... Saruman. The first of the 5 Istari to arrive in Middle Earth was Saruman. The Istari brought about the end of Sauron.

A valiant attempt my clever friend, but the Istari are not among the five that will solve this Third Age riddle.

Keep thinking.

Wilhelm · 11-26-2010, 08:35 AM

Quote:

First of five,
the beginning of the end.

I don't think this is right but, I might as well eliminate it from the possibilities.

Thorin Oakenshield and Company.

Thorin and company were the first "army" to arrive at the battle area of the "Battle of the 5 armies". This was the first step that brought about the end of Smaug and/or the Orc army. Since Bilbo was involved - the finding of the ring is also the first step in "ending" Sauron.

Keith K · 11-26-2010, 08:19 PM

Who Am I?
First of five,
the beginning of the end.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

I don't think this is right but, I might as well eliminate it from the possibilities.

Thorin Oakenshield and Company.

Thorin and company were the first "army" to arrive at the battle area of the "Battle of the 5 armies". This was the first step that brought about the end of Smaug and/or the Orc army. Since Bilbo was involved - the finding of the ring is also the first step in "ending" Sauron.

First of all, you are right about being wrong. Thorin's army is not the first of the five I seek. Consider it eliminated.

Also, eliminate the ending of Sauron as part of the solution. He has nothing to do with this whatsoever.

Keep thinking. I don't want to discredit the Riddlers of Entmoot by giving out clues on this one. I'm confident that y'all will solve it as it sits without any extra help.

I will say that it's not anything too far out there, as far as the solution goes. Pretty straight forward, actually. So don't bruise your poor brains on it by dreaming up elaborate scenarios. Muahhh!

Keith K · 11-29-2010, 04:22 PM

What, to a hobbit's mind is useless, worthless, and precious all at once?

bhager · 11-30-2010, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith K

What, to a hobbit's mind is useless, worthless, and precious all at once?

could this be a "mathom" ? an object with no use but a hobbit is unwilling to part with.

bhager · 11-30-2010, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith K

First of five,
the beginning of the end.

Good luck, Riddlers!

could Bilbo be the first of five? "The Tale of Five Hobbits" is one of the titles of Bilbo's part of the Big Red Book. It is found in the first few pages of the last chapter, The Grey Havens, when Frodo is handing over the keys to Bag End to Sam, the beginning of the end.

Keith K · 11-30-2010, 06:01 PM

Hobbit Psychology 101
What, to a hobbit's mind is useless, worthless, and precious all at once?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhager

could this be a "mathom" ? an object with no use but a hobbit is unwilling to part with.

It could indeed. You reasoned that one out well, my friend. Mathom is the answer!

Keith K · 11-30-2010, 06:34 PM

Who Am I?
First of five,
the beginning of the end.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhager

could Bilbo be the first of five? "The Tale of Five Hobbits" is one of the titles of Bilbo's part of the Big Red Book. It is found in the first few pages of the last chapter, The Grey Havens, when Frodo is handing over the keys to Bag End to Sam, the beginning of the end.

Interesting. That could well be the subject for a riddle going forward. (after y'all have forgotten all about it.

) And it does fit the clues. Sorta.

However, they are the wrong five. Bilbo is not the character I seek, and the ending at the Grey Havens has no connection at all.

I am really beginning to like this riddle. Can the Riddlers of Entmoot truly be stumped?

Never! One of y'all will figure it out. Keep thinking. I'm rooting for ya!

Midge · 12-02-2010, 11:11 PM

Is it an end that is stated specifically in the text (like, one that is named) or is it an end that is inferred when something is over (like how the third age ends when the fourth one begins)? I feel like I need to start with all the beginnings of ends and then connect the "five" to that. *sigh* this is driving me nuts.

***Valandil*** · 12-02-2010, 11:37 PM

I was wondering about battles in the Silmarillion...???

Keith K · 12-03-2010, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midge

Is it an end that is stated specifically in the text (like, one that is named) or is it an end that is inferred when something is over (like how the third age ends when the fourth one begins)? I feel like I need to start with all the beginnings of ends and then connect the "five" to that. *sigh* this is driving me nuts.

All I will say is that y'all are looking at this " beginnings of ends" stuff entirely wrong and out of context. Once you figure that part out, you will easily be able to verify* it by using the first of five bit. Remember, this riddle is a Who Am I?. Also remember that it is a Third Age riddle.

I suppose I could add that the riddle is entirely sourced through LOTR. You don't need any other books.

*ie. identify the character

Midge · 12-03-2010, 05:57 PM

Hmm.. context helps. I'll think on it.

Wilhelm · 12-05-2010, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Who Am I?
First of five,
the beginning of the end.

Got it!

Bungo Baggins. The eldest (first) of five children and the hobbit that built (beginning) Bag End.

Stumped - we are not... Excellent riddle.

Pitchike12 · 12-06-2010, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

Got it!

Bungo Baggins. The eldest (first) of five children and the hobbit that built (beginning) Bag End.

Stumped - we are not... Excellent riddle.

Yap, I got it!

Keith K · 12-08-2010, 12:30 AM

Who Am I?
First of five,
the beginning of the end.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

Got it!

Bungo Baggins The eldest (first) of five children and the hobbit that built (beginning) Bag End.

He's the one! Well done, Wil.

Well... It's back to the Riddling Room for me. See y'all on the other side of the next puzzling poser a la Keith K.

Always remember, Riddlers Rock! So, Rock On Riddlers!

Taniquetil · 12-29-2010, 02:34 PM

Here's an amateur's attempt at riddling:

More than any warrior slaying
never a sword wielding
by the sword dying

Keith K · 01-01-2011, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taniquetil

Here's an amateur's attempt at riddling:

More than any warrior slaying
never a sword wielding
by the sword dying

Hello, and welcome to the Riddling Thread, Taniquetil. Thanks for submitting your first riddle!

Could it be Glaurung? His bane was a sword, and he never wielded one. Also, he was involved in much slaying.

11-23-2010, 09:48 PM	#241
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Hah! And the place you took your QUOTE from!!! __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

11-24-2010, 01:48 PM	#242
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	That is indeed what I was thinking of - the first section describing the scene from the top of the waterfall and the second describing things from Gollum's point of view. I actually posted a quote in the other game thread that was from this same scene! Edit: I didn't read Val's post - stinking new pages - but you caught me, Val! __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more! Last edited by Midge : 11-24-2010 at 01:49 PM.

11-29-2010, 04:22 PM	#247
Keith K Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: charlotte, n.c. Posts: 1,081	Hobbit Psychology 101 What, to a hobbit's mind is useless, worthless, and precious all at once?

12-02-2010, 11:11 PM	#252
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	Is it an end that is stated specifically in the text (like, one that is named) or is it an end that is inferred when something is over (like how the third age ends when the fourth one begins)? I feel like I need to start with all the beginnings of ends and then connect the "five" to that. sigh this is driving me nuts. __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

12-02-2010, 11:37 PM	#253
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	I was wondering about battles in the Silmarillion...??? __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

12-03-2010, 05:57 PM	#255
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	Hmm.. context helps. I'll think on it. __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

12-29-2010, 02:34 PM	#259
Taniquetil Hobbit Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 49	Here's an amateur's attempt at riddling: More than any warrior slaying never a sword wielding by the sword dying __________________ A Elbereth Gilthoniel! Hail Luthien Tinuviel! Hail Beren Erchamion and the fair Dior! Who died before his time, curse the oath of Feanor! Hail his daughter Elwing and Earendil! Forbearers of the Peredhil! Alone among the children free to choose the Edain or the Eldalie! A Elbereth Gilthoniel! Hail Manwe on Taniquetil!

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