01-11-2003, 12:40 PM | #241 |
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Zavron, I see you're online right now, and I'm glad I caught you. Since my last post, this has been the first time I've been online- school and other things getting in the way.
So let's discuss this difficulty we seem to have run into. There are quite a few things with the Red Flame-Blue Flame that are important in the plot I've invented- it goes deeper than it is on the surface. For that reason, Servant of the Dark Order, I'll need to PM you some of the details of what's going on with the bad guys if you're going to be playing them. Because this involves plot details that I'd rather not reveal on an open thread, would you mind clearing out your Inbox so that we can discuss any contradictions between the RPGs in PMs? |
01-11-2003, 12:54 PM | #242 |
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Sorry, In have said No you can't use it in this Rpg.
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01-11-2003, 01:12 PM | #243 |
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Editing the Flames would mean major editing throughout the RPG, for they are mentioned in many places and my plot is built around them. Because of that, I'd like to discuss it with you. But the idea for the Flames was originally yours, and I respect that. You have the final say, for the ideas are yours.
All that I'm suggesting is that we discuss it. I have not seen any contradictions between the plots yet- you haven't told me what these contradictions are. I'm pretty good at fixing things plot related, so I'd appreciate your giving me a chance. The point of this wasn't to steal your idea in any way. I read your legend of the Flames and thought that incorporating them into our RPG would bolster your original plan, as well as making a very fun RPG for us here. Last edited by Lief Erikson : 01-11-2003 at 01:15 PM. |
01-11-2003, 01:59 PM | #244 |
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Zavron - the one last thing I would like to add is that I think you should at least discuss it with Lief. After all, the point of the Tolkientrail, and of this forum, is for the sharing of ideas. I can't see anything but benefit from spreading the idea of the Red Flame, and I don't see how it creates any contradictions with your own work. After all, isn't the hallmark of a great idea the fact that other people want to share in it?
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01-11-2003, 02:23 PM | #245 |
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How about The Order of The Shadow.
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01-11-2003, 05:52 PM | #246 |
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Very well- If you won't discuss it with me, Zavron, then I'll think of something else. I'll inform the rest of you players what I come up with, and will be interested in hearing any new ideas that some of you might have . If some of it helps to involve your own characters better, then you can post me those ideas.
I'll be online more today and tomorrow (as it is the weekend), so I'll be available to discuss it with you all at this time. I'll be here some during the week too, but still not at all much. Last edited by Lief Erikson : 01-11-2003 at 05:55 PM. |
01-11-2003, 11:38 PM | #247 |
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K well i'm confused like do u guys really want me in this rpg or is like some of the stuff in the hytrox trying to hint at me to like leave and not to return? I'm very confused do u guys want me to quit or something?
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01-12-2003, 12:57 AM | #248 |
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What on Earth are you talking about? Of course we want you to stay!
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01-12-2003, 03:11 AM | #249 |
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Well it sure doesn't seem like it! i don't even see how i fit!
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01-12-2003, 06:21 AM | #250 |
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Well, let me assure you that we want you in. What makes you feel that you don't fit?
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01-12-2003, 10:09 AM | #251 |
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First of all Zavron, if I seemed rude in my last post, I didn't meen it that way, sorry The discussion of who has been here the longest is just a bunch of crap, I meen, yes, I was registered almost a year before you here, though that doesn't matter, and I don't see how it came up in the first place...
And if you think the Red Flame in this RPG affects your other Blue Flame RPG, then very well (still I do not see how it hurts or steals your idea at all) A great idea anyway... and the Order of the Red Flame has a sertain cling to it that is so cool... I just wish you could see that putting it into this RPG will not affect your other rpg at all... and I'd hate to see Lief trash whatever plot he probably has spent many hours to come up with... but very well, looks like you stand your ground Glistenfae, I guess you just have to find a way to interact further with people, till this point your character seems rather rude and mad, and I'm beginning to see that you're hinting to a reason for it... interesting!
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01-12-2003, 10:59 AM | #252 |
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Ideas
Okay Elvenfaerie, I've thought of an idea that might help you connect your character to things better.
I also got a new plot idea, and it's looking pretty good. Might have to develop it a little bit more, but it's looking pretty well in shape. I had to drop my previously written history of the Hytorax and the Red Flame-Blue Flame interaction, but this new idea still makes everything that has happened and will happen make sense. Except the titles- we'll have to go back and edit every post which calls the Red Flame or Blue Flame by their titles, Red Flame or Blue Flame. We'll have to rename them. I personally thing the "Shadow Order" sounds corny (Sorry Zavron ), but I'd be open to listening to other ideas for the names of the groups. Tessar, I rather forget what we had decided on in terms of Elise. I don't remember if it had any connection to the Flames or not. If it did, please PM me and we'll discuss how to fix it according to the new plot. Last edited by Lief Erikson : 01-12-2003 at 11:21 AM. |
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Nobody actually said anything about being in The Enrmoot. It was in This Rpg. I was here in this Rpg before you. I wasn't here when you registered, I know that.
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01-12-2003, 11:53 AM | #254 |
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Is it allright if I work on the name of The Bad guy, seeingas I caused a bit of a disruption in the flow. I'll do that for you lief and I'll try not to make it sound corny.
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I've been looking for something that seems like some Evil Order when I found this:
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You could make some Maiar do that in another RPG though, if you want to. Like you could make an RPG about the Ontors' history, and they could have been deceived by a Maiar in such a way. That would be an interesting RPG, for the history of this new species you've invented if for nothing else. If you're really interested in that sort of thing, as you say, I'd suggest you read the Philip Pullman trilogy called 'His Dark Materials'. Those books are on that same topic. I really enjoyed them when I read them, and I expect you would too. |
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I'm not going to read that book. I might make an Rpg about what you said, but I doubt it. I was just working on it. So who are the villains and what's the Plot Line.? I need to know what the boundaries are.
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01-12-2003, 02:05 PM | #258 |
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Lol, I wonder if my grandmother is one of those guards Athalt has gotten in his group... I see no reason for the kingdom to pay them at all Hobbits are small yes, but I would guess the guards kept a better lookout for the hobbits after the first getaway... just found that a bit odd ah well
Sorry for all that Zavron, that is behind everyone now... no more people being rude or angry... Lief has a new idea! Let's get them ideas for the dark group coming!!
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01-12-2003, 02:43 PM | #259 |
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Some ideas for the name of the dark group:::
-Red Wolf clan (Order of the Red Wolf) -Broderhood of the Black Shadow -The Shadowhand -The ShadowOrder -The Black Guardian ...ok, none of those were any good... but maybe they can inspire for better ones a good night sleep might give birth to better ideas...
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