07-20-2005, 01:47 AM | #221 |
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Personally, I rather hope that Harry dies in the end. She's been making the series progressively darker and the casualty characters are becoming progressively more important. If she wants to continue this trend there is no possible way that she can allow Harry to survive. If she had a happy ending planned she would have saved the character who died in this book for the climax at the end of the seventh, now the final climax will have to be an all or nothing affair and since I think we are all agreed that the probability of Harry being the sixth horcrux is high, he can't just kill Voldie, he has to die as well, in order for the story to be successful.
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finsihed this yesterday (was taking my time with it ).
As someone has said in this topic, I immediately thought that RAB was Regulus Black (dead brother of Sirius Black who tried to go against Voldemort but was killed soon after) - it fits the best with what the ntoe said. Imagine my shock when about 20-25 minutes I read a big spoiler in one of the topics here..... Who dies and who kills him something like
While at first 'knowing' who would die and who killed him was annoying - then the plot to kill Dumbledore and Snape's loyalty to Voldemort and his UNBREAKABLE VOW became more clear. Kind of obvious that Dumbledore was going to die. One of the biggest surprises was that Snape was the Half-Blood Prince. Of course, idiot spoilers, were looking to see who died instead.
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07-20-2005, 12:53 PM | #225 |
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Killing harry is not the only way for the ending to be succesfull! may I remind everyone that this whole idea is based on a picture on the spine of only the british version and that the picture was done by an artist not by JK rowling so it may be nothing at all AND That is a picture of the ring after dumbledor destroyed the horox (sorry can't spell) not the horox its self so the crack only apears after the horox has been destroyed (in the pensive scene, there is no crack in the ring but in dumbledore's office there is a crack that is nver really described, this is after the horox its self has been destroyed)
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07-20-2005, 07:47 PM | #226 |
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i was just thinking about ol' dumbledore's hand, and here's me theory:
DD said it was from his reactions not being so great anymore, so maybe he was dodging an avada kedavra and it hit his havd, thats hwy it looks dead, it is dead, but he used magic to prevent it from affecting the rest of him.
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If the A.K. spell hits you anywhere, you die. It was probably another spell or hex that he didn't dodge completly, like a "withering spell".
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Personally, I think we should be allowed to post spoiler tag-free. After all, one would reasonably expect this thread to have "Half-Blood Prince" spoilers in it after its released.
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I took the liberty of NOT USING THE SPOILER TAG. Nurv is right, the thread is about the book. Besides, we've had time to read it now, and those who are still reading should be sensible enough to not come on this thread yet.
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All this hoo-haa about a Harry Potter book disturbs me a little.
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another thing about book 7,
Hasn't anybody thought that there is more skill in writing a ending in which both satisfies the audiance and doesn't end in the death of the hero than writing an ending where harry dies, it would almost be like JK ran out of ideas!
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You know what might interest you also are some of the analytical books on Harry Potter. I haven't read any of them, but I know other people who've enjoyed them. Apparently "smart people like them" (according to some stuck-up so and so) I kept away.
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You remembered! I am touched. Snape is still a good guy. I like your point about two skilled Legilimens staring at each other. Harry was petrified by Dumbledore to see what happened and not interfere. I think D was dying as a result of the potion drinking. I also think he had unsuccessfully contained one of the protective spells guarding the Horcrux in the ring and was being slowly and agonizingly killed by his containment effort. His request to Snape was to implement a previously designed plan to guard against this possibility and to secure the end of the Horcrux if D had (unintentionally) become a host to that evil in some manner. Thus Snape fulfills an unbreakable vow to D and to Narcissa, but the upshot is he still serves the Order. The difficulty will be in convincing Harry. Though I think his actions at the end, sparing Harry from the others, and instructing Harry in what he MUST needs do before facing Voldemort are very telling; I am not sure Harry sees them that way (yet)! More to come (you know me!) ANDURIL, You really should read the entire HP series. Do not be put off by the designation of the books as a children's series. It is GREAT literature marketed as for children. Which is, IMHO, like saying NARNIA and MIDDLE EARTH are for children. Might be true on one level, but emphatically not true on most levels.
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Thanks Inked , and I agree with you about childrens' books in general (and especially Tolkien, Lewis, and Rowling ). I don't care what genre a book is in, if it looks interesting, I'll give it a shot. I love the Harry Potter series! The first book is still my favourite, even though I love HBP!
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my theory is that the potion that Dumbledore drank was the horocrux, the locket was a way of tricking people into actually taking the horocrux to try and get at what they believe was the horocux. However, Dumbledore knew this and therefore made pre arangments with Snape about what he had to do, and destroying the horocrux. Unfortuantely, whoever R.A.B beat Dumbledore there, unknown to Dumbledore, and therefore the ensuing event by Snape was not neccasary
hope that makes sense
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