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Thanks for the articles JD.
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As for no launch pads and rockets I'm a bit confused as to what you mean. Are you suggesting the terrorists will not have a means to launch nukes either then? (Though the worry of nukes is probably more with respect to rogue nations.) I wasn't suggesting the arms race will eventually lead to battles in space or something if that's what you meant. Quote:
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I did know before that ending (or at least significantly reducing) terrorism will take non-conventional means, I just let some "old-school" slip into my post there. (But no I did not actually think you or Britain would invade us.) Quote:
Globalsecurity.org is interesting. I notice India only spends $12,079.7 million (wouldn't that be just over 12 billion?), with a population of over 1 billion people. I was also surprised to see China, the #2 military spender, is only $65 billion. Don't they have the largest air force in the world? Anyway, that's a little OT, but I thought it was interesting. Though I don't think it's useful to call George W. Bush a warmonger, perhaps people who say that base their comments in part on this number: 466 billion. That is roughly half of the entire world. (I think I knew that already. Holy crap.) Iceland, I also note, doesn't appear to have a military budget at all. (It's listed as $0 rather than N/A.) I'm impressed, but I bet you're not. Quote:
When I say "rational" here, I mean a logical decision given the values of the decision-makers. Obviously, you can have two or more opposing views which are rational. The opposite of rational is irrational, but I wasn't saying the USA was irrational with my statement. I was defending Canada's stance, pointing out that it is in fact rational. Also, I fully admit that I don't know very much about the missile defence system. I've learned a lot in this thread so far though (NORAD et al), yet another bonus of this great thread. *grin* However, that doesn't mean that my opinions about Canada's military spending and/or involvemement with the missile defence program are worthless. Quote:
We should be ambassadors! By the way, that's Canada, with a capital "C". (I know, speedy typing. ) (1) Note: This is one correct usage of the word "eh", if you ever need to know this.
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something i dont understand about norh americans
americans go on about canadians saying "eh" all the time all the canadians i have ever meet hardly ever say "eh", but every single english person i have met says "eh" all the time it is used in this country for just about any sort of questioning tone |
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I say "eh" fairly often, but you Brits need to understand the subtlety of eh, not use it just to ask questions. (The British people I know don't abuse "eh" though.)
EDIT: Americans don't really go on about it, it's just one of those things we tease each other about. Like when you make a joke about your buddy. I hope people don't actually think that. (Some Canadians do abuse "eh", but this isn't a national phenomenon.)
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eh? O_o
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Hey, we were having a serious discussion in here!
BTW, it doesn't need to be just rantage from JD and I, or spam from Chrys (just kidding guys! ) All Mooters feel free to join in on this subject.
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You bring up a very good point about regional divisions. That's certainly the case. And though I don't support a large military, I do support the current military being adequately equipped, with enough people for its current operations. (I'm all for replacing the Sea King helicopters, I hope they've done this already.)
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ah, my gran's cousin is from quebec, and she never says eh?, she tends to say "excuse me?" but she is extremely well-spoken
my gran has a cousin, also from canada somewhere, that is on tele in canada "the singing nun" dont know how long ago that was, though (yes there are religious parts in my family ) |
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Speaking of Toronto and terrorism...
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Speaking of Canada and the umbrella of the USA, in the case of ACA and ECUSA as defined by the Primate's meeting in Dromantine Retreat, near Newry, Ireland - the coattails of ECUSA seem a poor place to be riding:
Canterbury snubs North American churches SOLANGE DE SANTIS STAFF WRITER The Anglican Journal TORONTO (March 7, 2005) - The Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, has rejected an invitation to attend a joint meeting in April of U.S. and Canadian bishops next month in a move that the Canadian primate, Archbishop Andrew Hutchison, said is clearly linked to the turmoil over homosexuality. "It does send a very, very negative symbol to the Canadian church, no question," Archbishop Hutchison said in an interview. "The message it sends to us is that at the moment he does not want to be associated with the Canadians." The Canadian primate, meanwhile, has also voiced his displeasure with the actions of a fellow primate who defied the commitment of the primates of the Anglican Communion "not to encourage cross-boundary interventions." Just a day after the end of the primates' meeting last month in Northern Ireland, however, the primate of the Southern Cone, Archbishop Gregory Venables, traveled to Vancouver to meet with dissenting Canadian Anglicans, including those who have walked out of the New Westminster diocese. Archbishop Hutchison called Archbishop Venables' visit "a clear violation of the agreement," adding, "To think that there's such a lack of good faith in this discussion is profoundly disturbing." He said he has written to Archbishop Williams asking him to "move very quickly" to see to it that this agreement is kept. Archbishop Williams' reason for declining to attend the meeting of North American bishops, scheduled for April 25-May 1 with sessions in Windsor, Ont., and Detroit, was "the present situation and he also refers to a meeting that he should be attending," said Archbishop Hutchison. However, he added, "Our invitation went out to him over a year ago and I'm sure that this (other) meeting is not something that he (had) committed (to) before our invitation." Archbishop Hutchison said he was troubled by Archbishop Williams' decision. "I'm very upset because it goes against what I believe is his own personal position (on homosexuality) and he has expressed it pretty publicly and in other circumstances," he said. Canadian bishop Bruce Howe, who is on the organizing committee and in whose Huron diocese the meeting will take place, said that he was a "little disappointed." Considering what happened in northern Ireland, he said, Archbishop Williams "should have made more of an effort to come, to make a pastoral visit to the Canadian and American bishops." However, he added, "I understand the optics. In the context of unity, he doesn't want to send a signal to the other primates that he's not taking them seriously. But he should be here." The joint meeting, which has been in the planning stages for more than a year, is scheduled to include the primates of the U.S. and Canadian churches, about 40 American bishops and the full Canadian house of bishops (also about 40). From April 25-27, the Canadian bishops will hold their regular spring meeting in Windsor, Ont. They are scheduled to be joined by their American counterparts on April 27, and the joint gathering continues until May 1. They are scheduled to discuss the state of religion in Canada and the U.S., with discussions led by Walter Brueggeman, author and retired professor from Columbia Theological Seminary in Decatur, Ga. The original schedule had called for a panel discussion led by the three primates. The meeting is set to end with a Saturday evening banquet and joint celebration of the eucharist, both in Detroit. With files from Marites N. Sison END ****************** Seems the ABC intends to take the dis-invitation of ACA and ECUSA recommended by the Primates LITERALLY.
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