Most impressive female character - Page 11

Ruinel · 03-19-2003, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by Lalaith
IMO, Galadriel helped Gimli a lot to get rid of his prejudices. I mean, after he has meet her, he defended her like no one else did. In think through her he saw the elves in a new, better way.
And that again, caused Legolas' new connection to the dwarves and especially to Gimli. He realized that the dwarves are not that dumb as he might have thought earlier.

Yes, you are right. He was reluctant to go into the forest and when he was asked to be blindfolded to take the path he was very insulted and did not trust the Elves. After his meeting with Galadriel, his whole attitude toward her and the Elves of Lorien changed... as well as his attitude toward Legolas.

Fëannel · 03-25-2003, 11:40 PM

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Originally posted by Ithilwin
for a fighter I'd say Eowyn(If we judge based on the books)

actually i think Haleth (Quenta Silmarillion) is one of the greatest female fighters and leaders of all Middle-earth, at least of the lands to the North; for TLotR probably Éowyn. Lúthien Tinúviel went with Beren into Angband and got a Silmaril from the crown of Morgoth, so i guess she's alright... on the whole, though, I'd have to say Haleth.

Ruinel · 03-27-2003, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by Fëannel
actually i think Haleth (Quenta Silmarillion) is one of the greatest female fighters and leaders of all Middle-earth, at least of the lands to the North; for TLotR probably Éowyn. Lúthien Tinúviel went with Beren into Angband and got a Silmaril from the crown of Morgoth, so i guess she's alright... on the whole, though, I'd have to say Haleth.

Haleth is a good choice: warrior, fighter, leader, mother. She's got it all goin'.

I'm still keeping with Galadriel as my choice (also mother, fighter, warrior, leader, but never selfish... see past posts for more).

Lalaith · 03-28-2003, 01:39 PM

Haleth is cool too, but I don't know too much about her.

**Nurvingiel** · 03-29-2003, 08:03 PM

Yea for Galadriel! The nice thing about her is that we know quite a bit about her. And much of it is very impressive...

Actually Tolkien gave her a lot of "camera time" in the book, indicative of a strong, important character.

Linaewen · 03-30-2003, 03:15 AM

Melian or Luthien

Orion · 03-30-2003, 04:05 AM

Melian is very impressive, I think.. but Haleth is the one who has made the biggest impression on me; she was "just" of the race of men, not an elf, and after losing her father and brother she started taking care of her people.. a very strong woman.

Linaewen · 03-30-2003, 04:47 AM

Oh, I forgot about her. Ok, let's see - i have 3 'most impressive female characters' - a mortal, an elf and a Maia.

Lalaith · 03-30-2003, 05:05 AM

Impressive always depends on the race the characters are from.

Linaewen · 03-30-2003, 06:08 AM

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Impressive always depends on the race the characters are from.

That's sort of how i measured their 'impressiveness' anyway- according to what power their race has, and how they utilised these to perform their great deeds. Melian had immense power, and used it to form the Girdle, and Haleth as a mortal had little power but she used it to protect her people.

Lalaith · 03-30-2003, 07:34 AM

But we always seem to be more impressed by Elves and Maiar.

Ruinel · 03-31-2003, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by Linaewen
That's sort of how i measured their 'impressiveness' anyway- according to what power their race has, and how they utilised these to perform their great deeds. Melian had immense power, and used it to form the Girdle, and Haleth as a mortal had little power but she used it to protect her people.

True, true... (about Melian) but she only protected those that lived in Doriath. She did nothing to help all of ME. And being a Maia she could have done more, I feel.
Galadriel did many great things prior to LotR books that helped ME. Haleth was a great leader! Both of these were highly impressive females. Many here have mentioned Luthien, who had great courage in facing Melkor with Beren. Even though it was out of love for Beren and not to help ME, that deed can't be discounted.
But again, Galadriel's sacrifices and assistance to ME came for the benefit of all who lived there, even those she had never met or loved.

Lalaith · 04-01-2003, 01:18 PM

I don't think that the reasons why somebody did something impressive is that important. Or maybe it is the most important thing about impressive actions. What do you think?

Ruinel · 04-01-2003, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by Lalaith
I don't think that the reasons why somebody did something impressive is that important. Or maybe it is the most important thing about impressive actions. What do you think?

Of course someone's motivation for doing something is very important.
Christians think that Jesus was great because he did great things for people he didn't know or had never met, even people that hated him. [Sorry to bring religion into this, folks. You know I hate to do that.]
Most mother's would give their lives for their children, this is out of love for them. Would the same woman do this for someone else's child? The outcome is uncertain when the child is not her own.
These women did not give their lives for others, but the risk to themselves was great in what they did. It put them in harm's way. It is the motivation that separates them.
Of course, this is all my opinion, and means nothing.

Lalaith · 04-01-2003, 04:48 PM

Oh, I think your opinion is quite cool. That's why I "widened" my statement. First I thought reasons are nothing but then I thought that most of the times without of the reason a hero would be no hero.

Ruinel · 04-01-2003, 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by Lalaith
Oh, I think your opinion is quite cool. That's why I "widened" my statement. First I thought reasons are nothing but then I thought that most of the times without of the reason a hero would be no hero.

Wow, my opinion is cool.

*head begins to swell, suddenly a loud "pop" is heard and bits of brain matter spatter all over the monitor*

Lalaith · 04-02-2003, 07:03 AM

I'm the compliment-girl in here. Say something nice and I'll praise you.

Linaewen · 04-02-2003, 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by Ruinel
Wow, my opinion is cool. *head begins to swell, suddenly a loud "pop" is heard and bits of brain matter spatter all over the monitor*

Oh, what a shame. I thought your opinion was great too (I concur with what you said), but i guess 2 compliments would just be too detrimental to your health.
I agree so completely with what you said that I can't even think of a response to it other than this.

Lalaith · 04-02-2003, 08:44 AM

Okay, the offical Ruinel-Thread!

Linaewen · 04-02-2003, 08:55 AM

Hail, Ruinel! *grovels on hands and knees*

Praise also Lalaith, the founder of this thread who posts every 2nd message in it. (I guess cos it's your 'baby')

You're wonderful Ruinel. Absolutely splendourriffic.

03-28-2003, 01:39 PM	#204
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Haleth is cool too, but I don't know too much about her. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-30-2003, 04:05 AM	#207
Orion Enting Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 78	Melian is very impressive, I think.. but Haleth is the one who has made the biggest impression on me; she was "just" of the race of men, not an elf, and after losing her father and brother she started taking care of her people.. a very strong woman. __________________ If you are going to have delusions, you might as well go for the really satisfying ones.

03-30-2003, 05:05 AM	#209
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Impressive always depends on the race the characters are from. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-30-2003, 07:34 AM	#211
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	But we always seem to be more impressed by Elves and Maiar. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

04-01-2003, 01:18 PM	#213
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	I don't think that the reasons why somebody did something impressive is that important. Or maybe it is the most important thing about impressive actions. What do you think? __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-30-2003, 03:15 AM	#206
Linaewen Fair Dinkum Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,319	Melian or Luthien

03-30-2003, 04:47 AM	#208
Linaewen Fair Dinkum Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,319	Oh, I forgot about her. Ok, let's see - i have 3 'most impressive female characters' - a mortal, an elf and a Maia.

04-01-2003, 04:48 PM	#215
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Oh, I think your opinion is quite cool. That's why I "widened" my statement. First I thought reasons are nothing but then I thought that most of the times without of the reason a hero would be no hero. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

04-02-2003, 07:03 AM	#217
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	I'm the compliment-girl in here. Say something nice and I'll praise you. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

04-02-2003, 08:44 AM	#219
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Okay, the offical Ruinel-Thread! __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

04-02-2003, 08:55 AM	#220
Linaewen Fair Dinkum Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,319	Hail, Ruinel! grovels on hands and knees Praise also Lalaith, the founder of this thread who posts every 2nd message in it. (I guess cos it's your 'baby') You're wonderful Ruinel. Absolutely splendourriffic.

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