01-16-2003, 08:35 PM | #201 |
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*looks at Gwaimir's next post*
oooh, REALLY scary thought ....
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01-16-2003, 08:40 PM | #202 | |
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01-16-2003, 08:48 PM | #203 |
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stupid public school
what is an atheist? ive heard it before but stupid public schools dont teach u anything on this subject..they do however not notice when in studyhall if u go on the computer on to this site
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01-16-2003, 08:58 PM | #204 |
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Well, in the second or third century, a greek mob had a man named polycarp killed on the basis that he was an 'athiest'.
Polycarp was a christian. LFA: Have you ever considered doing an independant study? That's what I did when I realized that public schools were commited to making an idiot out of me. I can't say it turned out badly.
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01-16-2003, 09:04 PM | #205 |
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hmm..ive done independant studies before....but the school is letting me take 11th grade math..=) (Im in 8th grade)
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01-16-2003, 09:11 PM | #206 |
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Well, I guess my public eductation is showing, Way - (hey, you called me Ri once ) - I have no idea what point you were trying to get across in the polycarp story....
LFA - a generally accepted definition would be: a person who believes that there is no god.
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01-16-2003, 09:24 PM | #207 |
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No point, just the amusing tidbit that at one time christians were considered to be athiests.
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01-16-2003, 10:13 PM | #208 |
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Rian - Yes I am. BIG shocker, huh. Good point on the rewording thing, though.
LFA: Just for the record an Atheist is someone who does believe in a God, a Goddess, or any Gods or Goddesses. EDIT: Accidentally wrote does instead of of does not.
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01-16-2003, 10:33 PM | #209 |
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ah ha~ thank you
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Atheist \A"the*ist\, n. [Gr. ? without god; 'a priv. + ? god: cf. F. ath['e]iste.] 1. One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being. 2. A godless person. [Obs.] Syn: Infidel; unbeliever. |
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01-16-2003, 11:59 PM | #211 |
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Erm, oops. I meant someone who does NOT believe in a God, Goddess, Gods or Goddesses, of course. How silly of me.
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01-17-2003, 01:03 AM | #212 |
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What we can do is look for a common denominator between the two categories; something that defines a shared characteristic between the two, and use this definition for the general, unspecific term "atheism". And that common denominator is definitely not "the belief that there is no God". That is strong atheism. atheism = a (lack of/without) + theism (godbelief) Strong atheism merely takes it further. I don't think you read the thread at that link either. Conform! Last edited by Andúril : 01-17-2003 at 05:21 AM. |
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Further, if the lack belief in a God is not the common denominator between strong and weak atheism, then what is? Are you defining "God" as the christian God? Is that it? In which case, I can kinda see where you've wobbled off to, but still... It would be of great help to me, and possibly Rian, if you would be more detailed in your definations of weak vs strong atheism. Is weak atheism tending towards agnosticism?
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I guess I'm not really a strong atheist...well, I don't believe in god, at least not the Christian/Jewish god, and I'm almost certain there isn't anything else out there either, but I'm also open to the idea of there being many gods--the Christian/Jewish one, and many others. It's that belief thing again, I think. Maybe not. Er. I'm not getting anywhere with this. It's getting rather late, I realize
Anyway, I guess I'll have to come back to this later, and answer Gwaimir's question tomorrow, then. Because I'd best be off to sleep as I have to get up when it's still technically morning tomorrow--wait, today. So I sleep on it, neh?
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Weak atheism Any person who lacks the belief in God or gods is a weak atheist. Some weak atheists believe that God or gods may exist, but this is not a necessary characteristic of weak atheism. They do not believe that:
Strong atheism Strong atheists are weak atheists who hold the belief that God or gods do(es) not exist. Therefore, strong atheists are those who lack the belief in the existence of God or gods, and hold the belief in the non-existence of God or gods. The obvious difference between strong and weak atheism is that strong atheism implies belief, while weak atheism does not. It must not be forgotten that since belief and non-belief are relative concepts, so too is atheism. Atheism is relative in that
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