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"Peace Camp" Draws Palestinian, Israeli Youths YOUTH PROGRAM STUDY GUIDE: I AM -YOU ARE VOICES OF HOPE AND SEEDS OF PEACE - PBS Gush Shalom Does have pictures with Israeli demonstrations supporting the Israeli pilots who refused to go on air missions. Where are all the Palestinians marching in the streets to speak out against the terrorists? Yehoo Directory on Palestinian/Israeli Relations Organizations I STRONGLY support Seeds of Peace and have included links to their website from day one in my posts. Here it is again - Seeds of Peace Side link - ISRAEL'S MILITARY DILEMMA
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By the way - Percey - I take your opinions seriously - I just don't happen to agree with all of them. If you can point out today where I made a comment directed at YOU where I was patronizing - I would appreciate it. Especially since it was back and forth yesterday and you didn't say anything about me being pstronizing. I also did not respond to your last comment on the board where you said you were going to bed. So as far as today goes - I have NOT directed any comments in your direction - patronizing or otherwise - until now.
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This is a tiny and beautiful planet. In the eternity of space it is, so far as we know, the only planet with life. It is so small, so insignificant in its celestrial home, and yet, the very existance of intelligent life makes it the most significant planet we know. Muslim, Christian, Jew, Buddist, Humanist, Anostic, Atheist - does it matter?
Everyone is entitled to their view. Every religion has produced evil, arogant, selfish and greedy people (and many non-religious people have fallen into that category too). Equally, every religion has produced decent, kind, caring and loving people - the Muslim faith just as much so as any other. Those who judge all Muslims by the scum that terrorise and hate are themselves guilty of mindless hate. Edmund Burke said Quote:
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There is a good chance I misinterpreted, but I found the last statement rather patronizing. However, as I have stated elsewhere on the board, my brain is currently enjoying a transformation into some interesting type of cheese, so my perception may not be as clear as it usually is. No harm done, JD, and I apologize if I misunderstood.
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As has been stated before, I don't think it's fair to continue the analogy between Nazi Germany and Palestine. They are not analagous situations - there are far too many differences, many of which have been pointed out.
Secondly, yes, I do believe that the bombings would stop, it would just take patience. It might not happen in a week, even a month, or even a year, but it would happen. Why? Because Palestine would be forced by international pressure to stop. The Arab world would be furious because Israel's refusal to respond to the attacks would give them the moral high ground in the eyes of the world as long as the Palestinians continued with the violence. The Western world would be furious at the Palestinians for attacking a peaceful state. Even those countries refusing to take sides right now would be forced to condemn the actions of a state that attacks an innocent victim. But it would take patience, and likely a great deal of it. Lives would be lost, yes, but no more (likely less) than would be lost if this war continues ad infinitum as it seems to be headed now. It is time for someone to do something different. It is sad to see that neither side is brave enough to break the cycle of violence.
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I do not have all the answers, JD. No one does.
All I know is that nothing is going to happen until someone takes a chance, and does something brave. Responding when someone hits you is not bravery, it is animalistic revenge. Maybe my idea would work. But at least its an attempt to do something different, because what's going on right now is most certainly not working.
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Israel during the summer - did not respond against several bombings. But then the 3 in one weekend happened.
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And what would have happened had they ignored that?
Attacking someone when they refuse to respond quickly loses its effectiveness.
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For how long? A few days? A few weeks? Granted, I was working at summer camp this summer, and was out of touch, but they were fighting when I went to camp, and fighting again when I left, so it couldn't have been much more than a month.
As I said, it takes patience.
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It doesn't matter what I feel (or would feel), if fewer people would die without retaliation and the attacks would stop, it would be a good thing.
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Percy - yes it takes patience. But why haven't you said that the palestinians should just stop the bombings? If they stopped the bombings and Israel was continuing to destroy palestinian homes and everything - then the US would get on Israel's case. Why not say the Palestinians should rise up against the bombers like many israelis have demonstrated AGAINST their own country's actions. Like I said - there were israeli pilots who refused to follow an order to bomb a terrorist home because of collateral damage. Where are the palestinians demonstrating in their streets to speak out against the suicide bombers?
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