04-05-2003, 06:46 PM | #201 |
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AHA! That explains why I couldn't find where you'd said that! And also why I could have sworn you believed that all Gods/Goddesses exist...
Lief, if I remember correctly, she believes in people.
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So basically you're saying that we do have the right to choose what hat we want to wear, because we won't know which is the right one while we're here on Earth. Correct? |
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I didn't hear that. I heard her say she believed in multiple gods and godesses, or one god and one godess, or something like that. I don't understand believing in people at all. |
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Is it me, or is there a striking resemblence to that and EG's stance on religion? I wonder if there's a connection... Lief, Nin's an AIM buddy of mine; I introduced her to the Entmoot. I seem to remember her saying to me that she believed in people (IIRC, not knowing I was a Christian, she proclaimed God to be a bunch of crap; I told her I believed very strngly in God, she told me she believed in people, and we agreed to leave religious discussion right there before we became unfriendly.)
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Yes, you will be forced to believe that a lot of people are dressed up and going nowhere if you believe in one of those religions. However, I think that it is only decent for a God who is decent to give us something more to go on than faith, and I know that he has. And Christian faith (When used correctly) is very different from what Atheists and nonChristians assume it to be. You make a basic assumption that there is no spiritual experience, but I've posted quite a bit about that mistaken assumption on the Metaphysical discussion thread. If there is no spiritual experience, then you're right in calling what I said "drivel" and in saying I have no right to speak so piously or condescendingly, saying I'm right and that billions are wrong. If there is no way here on Earth to know that, then you're completely correct in everything you said. I maintain that you're incorrect though, and that spiritual experience does exist. I doubt very, very highly that you can prove it doesn't exist, and I can't prove that it does exist. I have experienced it, so I know it does exist, and I'm not alone. This statement also is arrogant if I'm lying. Sorry for forcing you into the uncomfortable position of either considering me a real jerk or a misguided individual with mental problems . Maybe I should put as my signature "I'm not a jerk, and I am sane." |
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04-05-2003, 07:16 PM | #208 |
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Eruvial Greenleaf (or Eruviel, not sure).
No problem at all.
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04-05-2003, 09:00 PM | #212 |
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Told you.
So you believe, at any rate. I'm just the opposite: I believe without God, people would not exist.
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04-05-2003, 09:59 PM | #214 |
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Just curious: would you throw Satanism in there, too?
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04-05-2003, 10:06 PM | #216 |
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04-06-2003, 02:15 AM | #217 |
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After reading Marilyn Mansons autobiography i have been half converted to Satanism in the fact that i agree with a lot of there principles...
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04-06-2003, 09:31 AM | #218 |
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Would I be correct in guessing that that is Modern Satanism, not "traditional" Satanism?
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Jews believe that their religion is the right one, but they don't think that everyone should become Jewish, and it seems that Hindus would be the same- mind you, these are two religions I don't know much about.
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04-06-2003, 10:44 AM | #220 |
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I really disagree with this "all religions are one under the skin".
All religions pose the same questions ; they all come up with different answers. Or as someone ( Clifford Geertz?) put it: "The problems, being existential, are universal; the responses, being human, are diverse."
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