11-02-2005, 12:06 PM | #201 |
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The evolutionist inference of "lightinig" or an "explosion" ocurring randomly to bring together the atmosphere and earth together from nothing is much more farfetched than the inference of a designer.
if religion is ilegal in science class a lot of people have been breaking the rules for years. what is going to be taught is a contrast of two theorys not an "establishment" of ID to be forced on everyone. whats going to happen is balancing the exclusivity of evolution in the classroom.
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but i would like to see comparative religions added to the required material
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In most schools, higher ed, it is an offered course. I've even known H.S. that had such an elective course.
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11-02-2005, 02:19 PM | #205 |
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CSPAN3 has been playing the Dover intelligent design debates the past week or so. Definitely worth checking out. It really makes it clear how baseless the notion of intelligent design as science really is when experts get into the details.
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11-02-2005, 02:24 PM | #206 |
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Yes, but I tend to get very upset with the entire CNN-CSPAN view on news....I'm just going to keep plodding along reading everyones input. Thanks
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11-02-2005, 02:51 PM | #208 |
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Has anyone seen that Penn & Teller show where they discuss Intelligent Design? Ah classic.
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No, but we saw them In June at The Rio in Vegas and they have one h*** of a show. Then afterwards they rush out and stand in the exit area signing autographs and generally chatting with the audience as it leaves. NO ONE in Vegas ever does that.
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I'm sorry, but I'm firmly of the POV that ID/Creationism is reactionary pseudo-science. Grand Canyon created instantaneously by flooding my feckin' arse. [/rant]
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i don't have tv or time to watch tv, the internet is it for me (hmm, might be off topic...nahh)
hey there BoP, relax, keep your shirt on(or pants if you prefer) it is just common sense that the grand canyon formed rather quickly, evolutionist would have you believe that the colorado river ran UPhill for a billion years, how likely is that? not only that you have the layering you would get after everything being shook up so drastically.
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That's why I called it pseudo-science, IR.
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A) Do you understand stratigraphy? You have the layering you would get after NATURAL EROSION over a LONG PERIOD OF TIME. A catastrophic event disorders and destroys layers, but a gradual one reveals them. The layering at the Grand Canyon is revealed, not destroyed. Check out what happened in Egypt after the Aswan Dam was built - flooding destroys layers. B) The river did not flow uphill. It flowed over a long, fairly level plain, which it gradually eroded so that now it flows downhill. That how rivers work. It's how the Mississippi has meandered for years, for instance. This is a very well documented process.
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Rohirim, EVEN many radical creationists acknowledge that by geographic evidence alone the Grand Canyon could NOT have been created all at once like you insist. You have three well known components to the Grand Canyon: Lava flows on the plateau that the canyon is cut into. These lava flows are Cenozoic. And some of them spill into the canyon. The walls of the canyon are mostly cut into horizontal rock layers of Paleozoic age. There is an ‘angular unconformity’ at the bottom of the Paleozoic layers. An angular unconformity is the result of tilting and eroding of the lower layers before the upper ones are deposited. These tilted and eroded layers are Precambrian in age. Quote:
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woops sorry count. you beat me to it by a few seconds.
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'S all good. You have more evidence
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Then what are you taking as the starting point for the forces of evolution to operate ON? You can say they're different fields, but IMO, anyone that says that they have "NOTHING to do" with each other is being at least a little disingenuous (although I know you and don't think you would do this on purpose). Would you please consider recanting that statement? At least you seem to believe that the study of how life may have started on earth is scientific. "Chemical Evolution" is one term that it is called, by scientists and educators. Quote:
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