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*reads JDs last post* Hmm... so would I be right in saying you're a Republican yourself?
That's pretty cool that you got a note from Condoleeza Rice herself! Right on. Anyway, here's what I got thinking in the 9/11 Comission Report thread: Kerry says he will handle homeland security better than Bush. What do you guys (Americans) think of his statement? (I think I have a feeling of what you think already JD... By the way, what is a "snowjob" exactly?)
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We went to the international community - several members were REFUSING to negotiate - I don't want to have our national security vetoed by the likes of the do nothing UN or the slimeball Chirac. His true colors are coming out in his dealings with the EU.
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As you point out - kerry is using the flag waving and patriotism that you criticize Bush for. I guess that's acceptable now since it's the democrats using it. I have no problem personally with him using it - just let's look at his history in the senate and his voting record - not what he did in vietnam which was roughly 35 years ago. The military issue for Kerry is a politcal ploy, because let me remind you - Bush LED the nation during 9/11 and afterward and in my opinion did a really great job. It doesn't really matter too much to me if Kerry was a war hero during vietnam. A TRUE leader makes decisions that may not be popular but are necessary. A true leader does NOT give foreign powers veto over what we do. It is also very funny that MOST liberals want the troops home from Iraq and want us to bail out of there. I don't believe Kerry will continue too long with his stand of finishing the jobs if he makes it in office with his supporters being so anti-war. If that happens - we will end up losing the war. It's sort of interesting - democrats are saying that Bush hasn't succeeded in stopping terrorism - well of course not - it's a long hard fought battle and will take years. But now the attitude is that the warnings are just to scare Americans because there hasn't been an attack. I wonder how many terrorist attacks have been foiled because of these notices and because of things having been put in place by the Bush administration AFTER 9/11. Bush adminstration in my view is in a damned if you do - damned if you don't situation. if they don't issue the warnings and an attack occurs - they will be blamed for not warning, if they warn and nothing happens (maybe even because they actually STOPPED the planned attack) they are criticized for scaring people needlessly. I can understand if the streets of NY looked like the West Bank and Kerry and the liberals were getting up there and saying everything is terrible - but there hasn't been an attack on US soil in nearly 3 years. As far as I'm concerned - it's the democrats who are running on the fear platform of "we are worse off than before 9/11" because they have to make it seem like we are losing this battle. I disagree with their assessment of the situation though. All it is is that when a person or country goes from an defensive position to a offensive position - the group you are fighting with fights harder. Quote:
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As for bringing up the wives - you might want to talk to IR about that - he's the one that brought up the wives. I just pointed out the contractions of Theresa's speech and reaction to the democratic party which you seem to have the problem with. If Kerry and her are going to stress that she's her own person - i think it's important to know that before he got the nominatin she was a republican and didn't agree with her husband on most of the issues. Now that he's the nominee - she's a democrat.
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Also - remember - Bush 41 was a war hero too. Just because someone fought in a war doesn't make them a better American. The democrats finally have a veteran as a canidate and they are trying to make the most of it.
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I just got done watching Bush give a speech, and I couldn't take anything he said seriously. He made several claims but gave no support or examples. He kept repeating "America is alot of safer", but failed to give any proof or evidence.
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There is ONE proof you can't deny - we haven't had a terrorist attack since 9/11 and MANY MANY terrorists and key leaders of Al Qaeda have been captured. That is a fact that can not be denied.
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Also - it's funny with kerry because the democrats want the troops home and leave Iraq. Which isn't what kerry is saying he will do. Of course the thing is - he can't say he will pull out of Iraq - because then he loses the moderates he is trying to capture. So he has to give lip service to keeping troops in Iraq and not backing down, while at the same time saying he will be kissing europe's ass and asking permission to do things. Quote:
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