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Personally, and mind you, personally, I think that regardless of the preacher's nationality, anyone who claims to be a christian preacher should never call for people to kill. To take up arms to defend themselves is of course a whole other matter.
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Gee, the mullahs do it.
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Of course this can definitely be abused. However, it also makes sense. I think Mr. Robertson was calling for a kind of preemptive strike, as he views Mr. Chavez to be a serious threat to America's security. I think Mr. Robertson agrees with you though. He has said it isn't right for him to call people to kill, and he has apologized.
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09-02-2005, 10:35 AM | #204 |
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Yep, ever since WJC, an apology makes everything ok. Sort of like the weekend of OJ created marathon chase news.
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Life teaches us to be less harsh with ourselves and with others. ~ Master Po
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Yes, I agree that "justifiable" is a POV to a large extent, yet I doubt if ANY culture thinks killing someone that THEY think is innocent (by their standards) is just fine and dandy. That was what I was trying to show - our culture thinks the people killed in 9-11 were innocent, so that's why we reacted so strongly.
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My main point is that a religious figure, in MY opinion, has no place to dictate such judgement on political affairs or political figures. I quite agree with their right to announce crimes to the world and put injustices in the lime-light. But I DISAGREE with their right to announce that foreign political leaders should either be shot or forcefully removed. And seen the influence religious figures often have or can have on their followers, I would find such actions or demands totally irresponsible from their part.
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I see what you're saying, and I imagine we agree to a large extent.
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I would agree with you also, Eärniel. I said twice earlier on this thread that the main problem I had with what Mr. Robertson said is not so much what he said as that he said it. He can have this opinion. Talking about his feelings regarding Chavez in private with friends too is all right. But using his position in the way he did was out of place.
EDIT: However, I do not think that this issue is a matter where separation of Church & State applies.
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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1125831262546 ...especially when the public does the acting!
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A part of the public, anyway.
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