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05-13-2004, 10:50 AM | #201 |
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That is quite the timeline if you have time to read it!
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05-14-2004, 01:23 AM | #202 |
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06-10-2004, 12:55 AM | #203 | |
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I will be posting new pictures to my twin towers website somethime. I went and took pictures of the rebuilding. They have the temporary PATH station up and things. I also have pictures of the memorial in St Pauls Chapel - which was miraculously saved and went undamaged even though it was right across the street from the Towers.
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06-10-2004, 04:19 AM | #204 |
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Mm.
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06-10-2004, 01:34 PM | #205 | |
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06-11-2004, 01:01 AM | #206 |
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Yeah, it's a chilling watch ain't it? It's beyond comprehension that humans can still do these awful things to each other in this day and age.
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06-12-2004, 12:37 AM | #207 | |
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I found the video patronizing and little exploitative. But those obsessed with the tragedy or suffering from a delayed denial might find it useful.
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06-12-2004, 01:47 AM | #208 | |
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06-12-2004, 02:24 AM | #209 | |
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P.S. I'm not saying you have to agree with my opinion of the video. Everyone heals in their own way. I simply don't like the video.
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06-12-2004, 02:37 AM | #210 |
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Well I don't see how you think the video is patronizing or anything. You didn't really explain anything. Also - you seemed to say that people who like the video are obsessed with the tragedy - not just that people who are obssessed would find the "video useful".
Since I have a website dedicated to the Twin Towers - yes - I think you feel I am obsessed. So I sort of take offense at the way you worded your comment If I am wrong in what you meant - then I am wrong. And I wasn't being patronizing - I just feel your comment was directed at people who still dwell and think about 9/11 and about the Twin Towers. Also - the video is not new - it was made in 2002 and I think the video helps remind people what actually occurred on that day. People seem to forget exactly what happened on that day - besides just the Towers coming down. Just last week we had the victims families again in my town to hear the rest of the flight messages and cell phone messages from the planes. To me this is an ongoing thing. Almost everyday there is something newon out local news about 9/11 or ground zero or about a new memorial going up.
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06-12-2004, 02:54 AM | #211 | |
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To restate my opinion more clearly, I find the video patronizing and of little use to *me*. I do not claim this to be the case for others.
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06-12-2004, 03:02 AM | #212 |
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To each, their own, I guess. I'm the last person to be accused of being a patriotic yankee-wannabe, but I found the vid to be well put together, and haunting. Which is why I wanted to share it. Obviously, my feelings are that you'd have to have been under a rock to forget something like this, and as such, the message is to me, merely a poignant reminder of a terrible tragedy. As for what makes this day and age different from a few thousand years, well, not much, I agree. 'Twas just a turn of phrase, nitpicker.
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06-12-2004, 03:04 AM | #213 |
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This memorial was approved by New Jersey today - I have no idea how I feel about this. I don't really like it at all and this is the first time that I have heard about it. That just had it on the news today - first time.
What do you think of it? Here are some articles... http://jclist.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7 Opposition to 10-Story 9/11 Monument
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06-12-2004, 03:12 AM | #214 |
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I don't know. I guess it could work. Living in NJ, your opinion about it is more important. Though, I think most memorials are disliked initially.
BoP: I PMed you about that coment.
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06-12-2004, 03:26 AM | #215 | |
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What I wanted was a replica of the Twin Towers - and when a person steps back so many feet - they would then fit in with the lower manhattan skyline and it would seem like the Twin Towers were still there- at the right perspective and size. It would give people an immediate idea of what was lost. They would then be able to actually judge the size of the Twin Towers. Right now the World Finacial Buildings look huge - 55+ stories - however when the Twin Towers were there 110+ stories - they looked small. I've heard people talking at Liberty State Park and they really have no idea how tall the Twin Towers were and many people looking at the skyline have a hard time telling where they were.
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06-12-2004, 03:32 AM | #216 |
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One of my high-school teachers once heard someone in NYC ask if Minnesota was a state yet. The point of this anecdote? Some people are just ignorant. However, your memorial idea is better than the one in the article.
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06-12-2004, 11:59 AM | #217 | |
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If I'm not mistaken there will eventually be a new office block built on ground zero, isn't it?
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06-12-2004, 12:23 PM | #218 | ||
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I just think it looks out of place - and to me doesn't say much about the event - other than sorrow that is. Quote:
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06-12-2004, 12:29 PM | #219 |
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Rebuild the Towers- taller than before!
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06-13-2004, 02:01 AM | #220 | |
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