Oh no hes gone for a cheasy ending (spoilers)

[Rían]

Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
....Gandalf cries out above the noice, "this is the moment!"...

No, Gandalf cries: "Stand, Men of the West! Stand and wait! This is the hour of doom."

then: "The realm of Sauron is ended! The Ring-bearer has fulfilled his Quest."

Great lines! I hope they stay as written.

[SamNotSoWise]

I don't have the books in front of me to check my accuracy, but I remember a scene, I believe in RotK (the book) where Pippin is with Denethor, and D says something to the effect of "Sauron will never come forth to do battle himself until the ultimate end to gloat over his completed victory." (That's my paraphrase.)

He said that to explain why he (Denethor) did not go out to battle himself, but rather sent all, including both his sons, to battle for him.

But I must say, PJ's changes haven't bothered me that much. I've read the books over 10 times (although it's been a while now), and I'm a huge Tolkien fan, but I've tried to appreciate the movie as a story on its own, apart from my knowledge of the books. I've rolled my eyes at some of his changes, like the over-use of Arwen, the Aragorn-back-from-death bit, to name my two least favorite changes, but overall I've enjoyed the movies and I look forward to RotK. All three will be in my video library, I promise you!

[mithrand1r]

You are correct, SamNotSoWise. This sentiment is expressed twice in LOTR Book 5. (I forget which chapters) Once by Denethor and once by someone else.

If my memory is good, In a one book volume of LOTR p763 is where one instance of this sentiment occurs and the other occurs later in the book.

Sincerely,
Anthony

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by Ruinel
[B]Well, I know this is OFF TOPIC... but... in response to what you are saying...
I didn't have trouble with FotR until I got to Tom Bombodil. He just irritated me, still does. All that jolly old Tom singing down the path... gah! Far too light and jolly for me. I still have trouble reading through it. *notices all the glares from the Tom B. fans* oooookay.... moving on....

-GLARES VERY LOUDLY AT RUINEL-

...FotR and The Sil were his best works...

FotR is not one of Tolkien's works. He wrote the Lord of the Rings as one book (with six parts): the publishers divided it.

[Lizra]

I feel the same way (about the movies) as you, SamNotSoWise! Looking forward to RoTK, and (will) enjoy watching the DVD's at home. I'm glad they were made, though they are not perfect.

[Black Breathalizer]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
No, Gandalf cries: "Stand, Men of the West! Stand and wait! This is the hour of doom."

then: "The realm of Sauron is ended! The Ring-bearer has fulfilled his Quest."

Great lines! I hope they stay as written.

I didn't have the book in front of me when I posted what I wrote. I knew he said something incredbily moving.

I totally, one-hundred percent agree with RÃ*an. Those lines have just got to be in the film.

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by azalea
I agree with you there, especially when they come to this board. It's quite annoying.

yes, well... ... I wasn't going to say that, but now that you've said it, I feel I'm free to say: it annoys me to no end.

Originally posted by 'Death Wish' Gwai
FotR is not one of Tolkien's works. He wrote the Lord of the Rings as one book (with six parts): the publishers divided it.

I had read that they were sent to the publishers at separate times. The copyrights are different years. Intentions or not, they can be purchased as separate entities. That is the meaning of my post. And, I still like that part of the story best....

Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
I totally, one-hundred percent agree with RÃ*an. Those lines have just got to be in the film.

GAH! *stumbles from shock*

Black Breathalizer assented as one constrained, yet in his secret thought he received it gladly, for it chimed indeed with his desire... but his heart within was filled the more with envy and hate.... Yet such was the cunning of his mind and mouth, and the strength of his hidden will,...he had become closest to the secret counsels of the True Tolkien Fans; for flattery sweet as honey was ever on his tongue,.... And seeing the favour that he had of the Others all the 'Moot Members began to fawn upon him, save one alone, Ruinel The Faithful....

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAA!!!!

[Sheeana]

Oh, [edited], Ruinel.

Definately have to agree with ya there, Rian, those lines HAVE to be in there, or I'll *insert random act of violence in the general direction of Wellington.*

edited by azalea due to a complaint.

[Lizra]

Oh yes! Those lines are so wonderful! I'm getting goosebumps just thinking about it!

[Rían]

Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
I didn't have the book in front of me when I posted what I wrote. I knew he said something incredbily moving.

I totally, one-hundred percent agree with RÃ*an. Those lines have just got to be in the film.

(mwahahaha! Behold the power of a 'bliss ninny' )

I think they have a fairly good chance of being in there. Many of the lines in the movie are straight out of the book, altho sometimes given to different people. Those lines have the same 'feel' as some of the lines from the book that were apparently deemed acceptable and were put into the movie. PJ and co. often have a good feel for some of the dialogue, IMO, and many of the best lines in the book are in the movie. Those lines really are incredibly moving, as BB says.

Actually, I think the lines might be in, but perhaps mAragorn might say them (which would not be out of character, IMO) - what do you guys think?

(ps - funny story, Ru!)

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
... altho sometimes given to different people. ...Those lines really are incredibly moving, as BB says. Actually, I think the lines might be in, but perhaps mAragorn might say them (which would not be out of character, IMO) - what do you guys think?

ACK! You know how I feel about Arwen getting Glorfindel's lines. Bad decision by PJ! *sulks*

(ps - funny story, Ru!)

I'm so glad you get my humor.

[Hasty Ent]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
Actually, I think the lines might be in, but perhaps mAragorn might say them (which would not be out of character, IMO) - what do you guys think?

OH NO!!! Please tell me that idea came to you in a nightmare....

Viggo is bad enough -- never really liked him as Aragorn -- but to give him Gandalf's lines....

I think it may be time to re-read the books and try to forget about these "movies."

[Black Breathalizer]

I predict the lines will be in and will be said by Gandalf.

[LuthienTinuviel]

Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
I predict the lines will be in and will be said by Gandalf.

....seeing as they are some of the greatest lines in that part, i have to agree with you.

[Black Breathalizer]

Originally posted by LuthienTinuviel
....seeing as they are some of the greatest lines in that part, i have to agree with you.

When LT and I agree on something, that means you can bank on it!

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
When LT and I agree on something, ...!

*shudders* I find this very disturbing. O.O I'm not sure if I will be able to sleep at night knowing this.

[Cirdan]

Originally posted by Ruinel
*shudders* I find this very disturbing. O.O I'm not sure if I will be able to sleep at night knowing this.

a sure sign of the apocalypse...

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Cirdan
a sure sign of the apocalypse...

duck and cover everybody... the bomb is on its way.

[Sheeana]

Damn. Now if only I'd paid more attention in those classes! Now where's me duck?

[Ararax]

now what i heard was after sauron knocks aragonr down jar jar binks pulls off his mask and everyone finds out that its actualy isduler, then he kills sauron who pulls of his own mask and is revealed to be jar jar BINKS!