Relativism VS. Absoulte

[Andúril]

Samwise:
If one cat steps over the line of that territory then the first cat will chase the other out.

And what happens if an animal that is higher up on the food chain does the same thing? Humans are animals. If a dog marks his territory, is he going to chase a human out? No. His notion, or instinct, of territory is relative to him. And its the same with birds. A bird is not going to chase a dog or a human out of its territory, now is it?

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So I dont care what you ugys say

I should say that you are being close-minded, but I don't feel like it.

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They dont kill because some rival ticked 'em off, or because they feel like it.

Hmmmm....the other day I saw a cat "playing" violently with a fieldmouse. The cat had it's "fun", and left. The fieldmouse was left alive, but virtually expired.

[Khadrane]

Originally posted by samwise of the shire
ps.Who here is a Christian? Please Pm or e-mail me. I want to know seriously. Enough of the suprises that pop up in posts and signatures.

Um, I tried to PM you, but your message box is full, so even though this is probably spam, I'll tell you I'm a Christian on this thread.

[Andúril]

I'm a Chwistian!!! Pwaise the Laward! In the name of the daddy, the sun, and the holy poltergeist!

Samwise, pm me and we'll have a really fun time!!!

*winks at BoP*

Do you remember our plan??

Mwaahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa!

*Removes Pope outfit*

[Andúril]

Wait a minute!!

Samwise, forget about the pm. That's just gross!!

[Rána Eressëa]

And if there were no morals then that would mean there was no God, and if there was no God then what use are our lives if there is no soveriegn deity to listen to us and help us with our problems?

Are you telling me, that you can't help yourself, make it through your own problems, and need an invisible deity of enormous power to do it for you? I mean, really - wake up and smell the decaying rosebuds. They're dying because you think someone else will magically water them for you. Clean up your own messes - you're the one who made them. Take some responsibility for your actions. You do have that, you know.

Why does the Christian relegion keep on going if there is no God? In fact why does ANY relegion exsist if there is no god to listen to us? Why dont we just give up?

You go on because you "think" there is something listening to you. I could think the big pink and fluffy elephant is listening to me - does that mean it exists? Does it? Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there!

Laugh if you want - you're only laughing at yourself - because I'm using your own argument against you.

[emplynx]

Originally posted by BeardofPants


Not in modern western society, but I believe this practice occured in early inca culture.

They did indeed sacrifice their children, but they did not, in fact, torture children for personal pleasure. But since you think that is OK BoP, I don't see why I shouldn't?

[Rána Eressëa]

Originally posted by emplynx
They did indeed sacrifice their children, but they did not, in fact, torture children for personal pleasure. But since you think that is OK BoP, I don't see why I shouldn't?

You could. But the law, which was and is based on religion, wouldn't like it.

Religion's a way for telling us "don't do this or you'll be punished". They measure right and wrong through how much pain (and sometimes pleasure) is involved.

You can decide on your own not to do something, you know. Some animals eat their own babies - but we never see that as wrong, do we? We call it nature. But if a human does it - it's cannbalism!

[Andúril]

What's wrong with torturing children for pleasure? Are you telling me that I have to change now? After all these years?

[Rána Eressëa]

Live in the jungle for a while, emplynx. Then come back and tell me what you observed while there and tell me why it should be any different from the way we live.

[azalea]

Originally posted by Rána Eressëa


... animals eat their own babies - but we never see that as wrong, do we? We call it nature. But if a human does it - it's cannbalism!

And that's because God exists.

[Andúril]

Better yet, try to imagine a scenario that you would describe as the most obvious and necessarily immoral act possible. Then argue against that scenario being moral, but without reference to a preconcieved moral code.

[edit]I wrote "nut" instead of "but".[/edit]

[azalea]

Who said anything about morals? I said God.

Ooops, gotta go!

[afro-elf]

And that's because God exists.

can you clarify your response?

i'm not sure what its antecedant is

[Rána Eressëa]

Originally posted by azalea
And that's because God exists.

Once again, it's because you think God exists.

[Sween]

This is just my opinion but i think religion is the cause of all wars and major suffering in the world. A world without religion would be the best thing ever. Religion is for week people who cannot accept when u die you die and have the stenght of will to find hope with in themselves.

[Andúril]

i'm not sure what its antecedant is

Wouldn't "God exists" be the antecedant? You are unsure of the consequent X, in that God exists, therefore X.

[afro-elf]

Wouldn't "God exists" be the antecedant?

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And that's because God exists.

because WHAT gods exists

[emplynx]

Originally posted by Sween
A world without religion would be the best thing ever.

I'm glad you feel that way, because I don't believe there will be any religion in hell.

[Andúril]

Why not?

[emplynx]

Because hell is eternal separation from God.