Riddling IV

[Wilhelm]

Well dang. You edited your original comment which I was witness to

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Guilty as charged...

I had written a note to encourage Midge to fill in the blanks and had just posted it when the solution popped in to my head. I thought it better to edit my original than have Midge do all the research on something that wasn't right. You jumped in somewhere in there.

I edited my original back to something similar and then answered with a new post. I think the thread continuity has been restored.

I will try to avoid editing live posts in the future.

[Keith K]

Here's a quickly written riddle created as I am being chauffeured though the mountains of West Virginia...

This "point of ice" that does not melt brought fear to foes when blows were dealt.

[Keith K]

Another quickie riddle for y'all to play with...

Twenty-fifth when counted from the first
He's the best of course of all the worst.
(some wrong been done, he done it first).

Author's note: poetry derived from The Torture Never Stops, by Frank Zappa.

[Wilhelm]

This "point of ice" that does not melt brought fear to foes when blows were dealt.

Ringil or Aeglos? Aeglos or Ringil?

I'll go with....

Aeglos (the translation fits better with the riddle)

Translates to Snow point. The spear of Gil-galad wielded by him during the last alliance.

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

Ringil or Aeglos? Aeglos or Ringil?

I'll go with....

Aeglos (the translation fits better with the riddle)

Translates to Snow point. The spear of Gil-galad wielded by him during the last alliance.

You have hit on it with aeglos. I reckon I'm on an Elendil kick or something.

Well done!

[Wilhelm]

Originally Posted by Keith K

Another quickie riddle for y'all to play with...

Twenty-fifth when counted from the first
He's the best of course of all the worst.
(some wrong been done, he done it first).

Author's note: poetry derived from The Torture Never Stops, by Frank Zappa.

I really do not know but, I'll take a stab with... Sauron.

The only thing that comes to mind with 25 is the 25th of March. Which points to the destruction of the one ring and Sauron's end.

Sauron is the "best" (most loyal) of all of Melkor's followers (the worst) and since he joined with Melkor early on he was he would have had first opportunity to do wrong (likely starting as a spy for Melkor - reporting back on the actions of the Valar).

[Wilhelm]

Twenty-fifth when counted from the first
He's the best of course of all the worst.
(some wrong been done, he done it first).

And of course 10 minutes after I write my answer I get another idea which fits better to the riddle (and the Elendil kick that Keith K is on )

My revised guess is…


Ar-Pharazon

The 25th and most powerful King of Numenor (best of the worst)

He was the first to sail West from Numenor, breaking the ban of the Valar and attempt an assault on Valinor (and that just has to be wrong).

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

And of course 10 minutes after I write my answer I get another idea which fits better to the riddle (and the Elendil kick that Keith K is on )

My revised guess is…


Ar-Pharazon

The 25th and most powerful King of Numenor (best of the worst)

He was the first to sail West from Numenor, breaking the ban of the Valar and attempt an assault on Valinor (and that just has to be wrong).

Yes! Ar Pharazon is correct. It is only fitting that this was guessed right - as I once again find myself traveling through W. Virginia, this time heading back south.

Perhaps another riddle will occur to me as I drive through these beautiful mountains? Stay tuned, Riddlers!

[Keith K]

Ok. This is a simple riddle with all these clues, but I really like this guy and wished to honor him with this little rhyme...

Faithful leader to the last
Refused to kiss old Sauron's ass.

Then with Helpers 1-2-3
He left his land and put to sea.

Heading Eastward from the shore
He was not seen forevermore.

[Wilhelm]

Originally Posted by Keith K

Ok. This is a simple riddle with all these clues, but I really like this guy and wished to honor him with this little rhyme...

Faithful leader to the last
Refused to kiss old Sauron's ass.

Then with Helpers 1-2-3
He left his land and put to sea.

Heading Eastward from the shore
He was not seen forevermore.

It sounds like the key the key to this one is Sailing "EAST". This would typically mean they left from Valinor on Numenor and were heading to Middle Earth.

And I'm sure that's just what Ar-Pharazon thought when Amandil sailed east from Numenor...

My guess is Amandil, the father of Elendil.

Faithful leader to the last
Refused to kiss old Sauron's ass.
(Amandil always remained faithful to the Valar and his relationship with Ar-Parazon started to falter when Sauron was brought to Numenor

Then with Helpers 1-2-3
He left his land and put to sea.
Amandil set sail from the island of Numenor with 3 servants

Heading Eastward from the shore
He was not seen forevermore.
Amandil started his voyage heading east (this was a feint - he later turned west). Amandil was never heard from again.

It is unclear if he succeeded in his mission to save the faithful Numenoreans from the punishment that the Valar would deliver in response to Ar-Pharazon's assault on Valinor. But... 9 ships carrying the faithful (including his family members) were spared from the destruction of Numenor.

[Keith K]

Hello Wil.

You are of course, quite correct. Amandil is the Faithful leader of the rhyme.

Thanks for participating in the Riddling Thread!

[Midge]

Riddle:

Through the garden wilderness,
Three travelers stop to take a rest -
One oblivious to everything,
One busy doing everything
One goes once, then goes twice.
Nice try - he won't go thrice!

This seems like it'll be easy, but it's on a different kick, so you'll have to think outside the Numenor box. Preferably the answer would include identifying each traveler and the three "goings", but if the "goings" are too difficult, that's all right.

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by Midge

Riddle:

Through the garden wilderness,
Three travelers stop to take a rest -
One oblivious to everything,
One busy doing everything
One goes once, then goes twice.
Nice try - he won't go thrice!

This seems like it'll be easy, but it's on a different kick, so you'll have to think outside the Numenor box. Preferably the answer would include identifying each traveler and the three "goings", but if the "goings" are too difficult, that's all right.

I'm thinking of Bilbo and the Dwarves in Mirkwood. I am having a bit of trouble proving it, as I don't have my text available.

In any event, it concerns somebody sleeping it seems. And Bombur drank from sleep inducing streams...

[Midge]

Well, I won't make you search your text, because it isn't Bilbo and the Dwarves. There were quite a few more than three in that instance, if I remember correctly. Keep guessing.

Edit: Your guess about someone sleeping is correct. But there were lots of sleeping people in Middle Earth.

[EllethValatari]

Midge,

Makes me think of whatever happened with the Barrow-Dwights (or whatever they're called). Can't look it up right now but I just wanted to put that out there. Most likely dead wrong.

[EllethValatari]

Another MLW* answer, lines 3 and 4 make me think of Sam and Frodo after Frodo was stung by Shelob.

*Most likely wrong

[Midge]

Originally Posted by EllethValatari

Midge,

Makes me think of whatever happened with the Barrow-Dwights (or whatever they're called). Can't look it up right now but I just wanted to put that out there. Most likely dead wrong.

Indeed, dead wrong.

Originally Posted by EllethValatari

Another MLW* answer, lines 3 and 4 make me think of Sam and Frodo after Frodo was stung by Shelob.

*Most likely wrong

Ahh, we're getting quite a bit closer with this one. Shelob is absolutely wrong. I also need lines 1, 2, 5 and 6 explained. Keep thinking.

[Wilhelm]

Through the garden wilderness,
Three travelers stop to take a rest -
One oblivious to everything,
One busy doing everything
One goes once, then goes twice.
Nice try - he won't go thrice!

I'm thinking Frodo, Sam and Gollum in Ithilien. Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit...

Ithilien is a Garden wilderness and I have mentioned 3 travelers.

Frodo is pretty much oblivious (sleeping) as he struggles with the ring. Sam is busy cooking the rabbits and making dinner. And Gollum goes once to catch rabbits, again to gather water (twice) but refuses to go on the potato/herb run for Sam (not thrice).

[Midge]

Indeed, Wilhelm! That solves it! Congrats.

I was impressed with myself this time - the riddle actually rhymed (kind of). Technically, Gollum got the water first, then the rabbits, but who's being picky?

[Torongil]

I got a quick one too, I mostly made it for the ryming as it is pretty easy:

A worm lives in a hollow rock,
With two doors, one with a secret lock.

The unlucky number gets one more,
With out him they would not have survived the trip to the door.

The worm is killed, the mountain set free,
All by a stick from a tree.

To answer this riddle,
All you must do is make it simple.