Fellowship of the ringwraiths discussion thread - Page 10

Gordis · 07-03-2005, 01:14 PM

GW,
I may be mistaken but isn't there 1 hour time difference between UK and Sweden? I should say you will be "howled for" at 11 Swedish time. It is 10h UK.
Gor

CrazySquirrel · 07-03-2005, 01:59 PM

Loved your joke, Grey Wolf!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!

He-he, Gor! Wikkie's garb is stunning. Almost like mine. And you really plan to go around in a long-trained dress?

Grey_Wolf · 07-03-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gordis

GW,
I may be mistaken but isn't there 1 hour time difference between UK and Sweden? I should say you will be "howled for" at 11 Swedish time. It is 10h UK.
Gor

Yes, of course uk time is an hour ahead of swedish time. my mistake.

Grey_Wolf · 07-03-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazySquirrel

Loved your joke, Grey Wolf!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!

He-he, Gor! Wikkie's garb is stunning. Almost like mine. And you really plan to go around in a long-trained dress?

Thank you.

Gordis · 07-03-2005, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazySquirrel

He-he, Gor! Wikkie's garb is stunning. Almost like mine. And you really plan to go around in a long-trained dress?

And you really plan to go around on high heels?
May I borrow your make-up kit? I was a bit upset when I packed...

CrazySquirrel · 07-03-2005, 06:14 PM

No way, darling. Aren't we rivals?

CrazySquirrel · 07-03-2005, 06:27 PM

Now ye guys, ye gonna dress?

Telcontar_Dunedain · 07-04-2005, 02:21 AM

Are we not going to use the rags then?

Gordis · 07-04-2005, 03:56 AM

We shall wear the rags over our other garb when on duty

Gordis · 07-04-2005, 03:30 PM

I am afraid our Quest is turning too Mary-Sueish...

Anyway, thank you, Grey Wolf, for your last comment. Cheered me up a lot

!
I liked your exchange with CS re:Goth Girl, quite funny.

Now we have to pass between Lorien and the Mountains and ask elves about the Shire, if we see them.

Grey_Wolf · 07-04-2005, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gordis

I am afraid our Quest is turning too Mary-Sueish...

Anyway, thank you, Grey Wolf, for your last comment. Cheered me up a lot

!
I liked your exchange with CS re:Goth Girl, quite funny.

Now we have to pass between Lorien and the Mountains and ask elves about the Shire, if we see them.

You're welcome.

Lotesse · 07-05-2005, 12:07 AM

Why does Viv have to wear such obnoxious crap? (no offense) I'd like to get her to make a fuss about her wardrobe, and demand her old "tom-boy" clothes back. Does anyone "have" Viv, I mean, will anyone get offended if I play her a bit? I'd keep her shy and romantic, yet also make her tomboyish, intense and secretly fiery, as if she has a sweet temperment juxtaposed with a crazy, unpredictable temper. But she'd still be the youngest of all the ringwraiths, as well as the least experienced with the life and responsibilities of wraithdom. What do you all think?

Gordis · 07-05-2005, 04:59 AM

I will be happy if you take Viv, Lotesse!

I love your ideas on her personality.
I am sure nobody here is against.

As for Viv's garb, I also feel that CS was too unfair with her choice of colours. Perhaps she was just trying to eliminate a potential rival?

Could you edit your description CS? Lotesse will find more suitable clothes for our baby-girl!

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Originally Posted by Lotesse

But she'd still be the youngest of all the ringwraiths, as well as the least experienced with the life and responsibilities of wraithdom.

Yes, Viv may be not 4500 years old, but only about 4000... A baby, sure!

Butterbeer · 07-05-2005, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gordis

I am afraid our Quest is turning too Mary-Sueish...

well i think i agree - what is mary-sueish exactly?

Viva the new Viv!

i wonder what Td's next mearas ploy will be

CS can khamul have some make up too? ( you'd have to have seen the uk's current series of big brother to get that ( actually its kemal on there ...)

ref: muslims and booze ... all the young muslims i know ( and the majority of the rest) down here drink, boys and girls ( at least the more westernised girls anyway.. which is the growing majority )

maybe we could give khamul a big beard and he wants to stop and (facing the east) get down and prey to ( .... Sauron!

) every hour? .... course' he wouldn't say it was to Sauron .... could be all sorts of excuses, ...

maybe some of the westerners, the old school colonial numenorians could accuse him of having some additional devastating "secret weapons ..." and make a big thing of having a search?

Hey! just noticed both threads have gone "HOT", this one with over 1,000 views and the the rpg approaching 1,000 rapidly and both over 100 replies!

could be the excuse for some champagne! (and some dancing!) and some cavorting! .... etc

well done all!

CrazySquirrel · 07-05-2005, 04:29 PM

Well I see that poor Viv has got a defender

. Fine!
I am taking away the rose-green clothes from Viv, as Gor and Lotesse ask.
If you want to add something new about Viv's garb in my "dress" post, Lotesse, tell me, I will edit the old post again. Or you may choose to describe her dress later

.

I don't know, what is "Mary-Sueish"?

About Khamul, you have to ask TD if he agrees. But I don't think islam existed in ME. Was polygamy ever mentioned by Tolkien?

Gordis · 07-05-2005, 05:14 PM

Mary-Sues are generally regarded as a fluffy perfect version of the fanfiction writer.
Mary Sues are the plague of Tolkien fan-fiction, written by girls.The writer includes herself in the story, and usually has all the characters falling in love with her e.t.c. A Mary-Sue character is one for whom the plot gets skewed so that she can shine.

The instant Mary Sue test (some points at least):
-She's beautiful.
–Powerful
-Noble
-Half elf/Maia
-She's related to important people
-She falls desperately in love with one of Tolkien's characters and vice versa
-Able to defeat Sauron
And so on.

Gordis · 07-05-2005, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Butterbeer

ref: muslims and booze ... all the young muslims i know ( and the majority of the rest) down here drink, boys and girls ( at least the more westernised girls anyway.. which is the growing majority )

maybe we could give khamul a big beard and he wants to stop and (facing the east) get down and prey to ( .... Sauron!

) every hour? .... course' he wouldn't say it was to Sauron .... could be all sorts of excuses.

In Paris I knew a girl from Tunis who never tasted wine in her life. But I agree, most are westernised.

It is canon that Sauron was regarded as God in the East. But what were the nazgul then?
Something like his angels, I believe

.
Somehow I don't think they prayed to Sau, they were like extention of his will...his winged immortal messengers.

Good news about the "Hotness" of our threads! Congratulations, All!

Lotesse, by all means, please post the part about Viv. I shall edit my last post to fit. I will take away the part about moving on and post it later, after your part.

Butterbeer · 07-05-2005, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gordis

Mary-Sues are generally regarded as a fluffy perfect version of the fanfiction writer.
Mary Sues are the plague of Tolkien fan-fiction, written by girls.The writer includes herself in the story, and usually has all the characters falling in love with her e.t.c. A Mary-Sue character is one for whom the plot gets skewed so that she can shine.

The instant Mary Sue test (some points at least):
-She's beautiful.
–Powerful
-Noble
-Half elf/Maia
-She's related to important people
-She falls desperately in love with one of Tolkien's characters and vice versa
-Able to defeat Sauron
And so on.

hmmm: if we see one around we should tell olmer.
not sure i fit the bill though (damn failed on one count!

)

CS: well i'm sure TD won't ... but the polygamy might appeal

... ( it wouldn't be how i'd define islam though ... ? i'm not sure that polygamy - although technically possible is the right thing for muslims morally?) - but we digress ....

Telcontar_Dunedain · 07-06-2005, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gordis

Mary-Sues are generally regarded as a fluffy perfect version of the fanfiction writer.
Mary Sues are the plague of Tolkien fan-fiction, written by girls.The writer includes herself in the story, and usually has all the characters falling in love with her e.t.c. A Mary-Sue character is one for whom the plot gets skewed so that she can shine.

The instant Mary Sue test (some points at least):
-She's beautiful.
–Powerful
-Noble
-Half elf/Maia
-She's related to important people
-She falls desperately in love with one of Tolkien's characters and vice versa
-Able to defeat Sauron
And so on.

Ahh. All the memories from reading Nurv's MST's. The male version is a Marty Stu.

CS and BB, I would prefer you not make Khamûl Islamic or anything, but if you really do want to then ok, I just kind of like where I'm going with Khamûl.

CrazySquirrel · 07-06-2005, 01:12 PM

I agree TD, we better shall not introduce Islam into ME. Let the sleeping dogs lie.
I like your portrayal of Khamul, actually. But he can still think that girls should be kept in line, can't he? Normally they are in the East, you know.

WHERE IS LOTESSE? WE ARE WAITING FOR YOUR POST ON VIV'S DRESS!

07-04-2005, 02:21 AM	#188
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	Are we not going to use the rags then? __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

07-05-2005, 12:07 AM	#192
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Why does Viv have to wear such obnoxious crap? (no offense) I'd like to get her to make a fuss about her wardrobe, and demand her old "tom-boy" clothes back. Does anyone "have" Viv, I mean, will anyone get offended if I play her a bit? I'd keep her shy and romantic, yet also make her tomboyish, intense and secretly fiery, as if she has a sweet temperment juxtaposed with a crazy, unpredictable temper. But she'd still be the youngest of all the ringwraiths, as well as the least experienced with the life and responsibilities of wraithdom. What do you all think? __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

07-05-2005, 05:14 PM	#196
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	on Mary-Sues Mary-Sues are generally regarded as a fluffy perfect version of the fanfiction writer. Mary Sues are the plague of Tolkien fan-fiction, written by girls.The writer includes herself in the story, and usually has all the characters falling in love with her e.t.c. A Mary-Sue character is one for whom the plot gets skewed so that she can shine. The instant Mary Sue test (some points at least): -She's beautiful. –Powerful -Noble -Half elf/Maia -She's related to important people -She falls desperately in love with one of Tolkien's characters and vice versa -Able to defeat Sauron And so on. Last edited by Gordis : 07-05-2005 at 05:31 PM.

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07-03-2005, 01:14 PM	#181
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	GW, I may be mistaken but isn't there 1 hour time difference between UK and Sweden? I should say you will be "howled for" at 11 Swedish time. It is 10h UK. Gor

07-03-2005, 01:59 PM	#182
CrazySquirrel Shape-shifting, men-grabbing NAZGUL Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 796	Loved your joke, Grey Wolf! HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU! He-he, Gor! Wikkie's garb is stunning. Almost like mine. And you really plan to go around in a long-trained dress?

07-03-2005, 06:14 PM	#186
CrazySquirrel Shape-shifting, men-grabbing NAZGUL Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 796	No way, darling. Aren't we rivals?

07-03-2005, 06:27 PM	#187
CrazySquirrel Shape-shifting, men-grabbing NAZGUL Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 796	Now ye guys, ye gonna dress?

07-04-2005, 03:56 AM	#189
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	We shall wear the rags over our other garb when on duty

07-04-2005, 03:30 PM	#190
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	I am afraid our Quest is turning too Mary-Sueish... Anyway, thank you, Grey Wolf, for your last comment. Cheered me up a lot ! I liked your exchange with CS re:Goth Girl, quite funny. Now we have to pass between Lorien and the Mountains and ask elves about the Shire, if we see them.

07-05-2005, 04:29 PM	#195
CrazySquirrel Shape-shifting, men-grabbing NAZGUL Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 796	Well I see that poor Viv has got a defender . Fine! I am taking away the rose-green clothes from Viv, as Gor and Lotesse ask. If you want to add something new about Viv's garb in my "dress" post, Lotesse, tell me, I will edit the old post again. Or you may choose to describe her dress later . I don't know, what is "Mary-Sueish"? About Khamul, you have to ask TD if he agrees. But I don't think islam existed in ME. Was polygamy ever mentioned by Tolkien?

07-06-2005, 01:12 PM	#200
CrazySquirrel Shape-shifting, men-grabbing NAZGUL Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 796	I agree TD, we better shall not introduce Islam into ME. Let the sleeping dogs lie. I like your portrayal of Khamul, actually. But he can still think that girls should be kept in line, can't he? Normally they are in the East, you know. WHERE IS LOTESSE? WE ARE WAITING FOR YOUR POST ON VIV'S DRESS!