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Old 07-12-2007, 11:24 AM   #181
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(A great deal of this post is in spoilers due to a great amount of book two spoilers)

Well, just to try to settle the
Eragon/Murtagh
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The elves magic made Eragon the better swordsman by giveing him the streng and reflexes of an elf, he has also learned all the traditional dragon-rider secrets.

Murtagh it seems hasn't improved as a swordsman nearly as much (if at all) by being a dragonrider, but Gabbly-goo's teaching has evedently improved his magic much better than Eragon's.


I'm pretty sure that this is right.

They're both overpowered but still in different ways.
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:54 PM   #182
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Murtagh's magic is different than Eragon's. If you'll remember, What's-His-Name, Oromis, taught Eragon differently. Murtagh told Eragon that he had learned secrets, and Eragon said that they should remain secrets... Blah, blah, whatever.

Eragon most likely could beat Murtagh if he wasn't tired...
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:12 PM   #183
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On the contrary: Murtaghs magic
Overwelmed all the dwarf mages to kill the dwarf king


That would take alot of might!

Might that -even with the fancy belt- Eragon does not have.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:18 PM   #184
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Remember, Murtagh had not been in battle yet, so he had all his energy.
He probaly did not use a spell that took alot of energy.

I still think, that, if Eragon had not fought in the battle, he could have overwhelmed Murtagh.

Why is it that the evil ones are always fresh to fight those on the side of good, and those on the side on good are not? Besides the fact that they help fight.
Are the bad guys chicken? They act as if they are...
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:39 PM   #185
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Ah,
ut Murthagh overwelmed all the dwarf mages wards with that spell, it seemed to be that they keeled over from overuse of magic to me (Puting way to many wards on the king and then the king getting blasted)

And remember: The dwarves had just arrived, they hadn't been fighting all day long!

And secondly: As to bad guys allways being into a fight with the good guys?

Bad guys let their soldiers get killed in order to wear down their oponents and they themselves hide untill they come out and fight the hero -dispite their aparent strength-

Heros on the other hand fight on the front lines of the battle.
Tireing themselves greatly, but saveing many lives
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Old 07-22-2007, 02:39 PM   #186
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Why is it that the evil ones are always fresh to fight those on the side of good, and those on the side on good are not? Besides the fact that they help fight.
Are the bad guys chicken? They act as if they are...
Yep
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:24 PM   #187
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But Murtagh was fresh, too. And he had a Dragon. Not to mention that he was a Dragon Rider.

Star Wars, Eragon, and The Lord of the Rings all their bad guys hide like little chickens whilest the good guys all fight and be the hero of the day. I'd say they were dumb.
I mean, if the bad guy wanted everyone to follow them, why don't they get out there and make everyone worship them?
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Old 07-24-2007, 10:10 AM   #188
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I mean, if the bad guy wanted everyone to follow them, why don't they get out there and make everyone worship them?
They threaten everyone "follow me or else" kinda thing. I think that is a bit cowardly.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:29 PM   #189
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They threaten everyone "follow me or else" kinda thing. I think that is a bit cowardly.
No kidding...
They would never admit it, but, they are cowards.
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Old 07-27-2007, 11:04 AM   #190
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True, if they admitted it then they wouldn't have anyone to lord over
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Old 07-27-2007, 02:36 PM   #191
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Well, then to solve this problem, why not they get busy and look like heroes?
Then, if they end up backing out of just one fight, they would be called cowards openly, and they would just back off and let the real hero to do the work.
Of course, they then have to kill the hero to get the people to obey them so they can be in charge.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:30 AM   #192
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Old 08-02-2007, 09:17 PM   #193
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:57 AM   #194
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I've read Eldest during the holidays. It was better at holding my interest than Eragon, but I continually see more Star Wars parallels. I thought the whole romance between Eragon and Arya was rather boring and artificial. Not very many interesting characters in the book, either. And far too little about Sapphira, you'd think if Eragon and her are one, then Paolini could have written a bit more about her training too. But I quite liked the unashamed fairy forest-feel of Ellesméra, it taps straight into the childhood memories.

I wasn't very impressed with Murtagh's deflection. He spends the entire first book trying to convince people that he's good, the first time we see him again in the second book, oh he's suddenly working for the evil side. Looks rather silly.
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Yeah, it was a rather daft book for me, waaay to ripped off and rushed. But that said, I hate being in the dark, once I pick up a series book, regardless of what it turns out to be like. That said, any idea on when the last one is coming out?
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:58 PM   #196
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I wish I knew...

I also wish that I knew more about Saphira's trianing, also...
I don't like people making me rush, so maybe that is the matter with Eldest. Maybe the public should be patient and let whats-his-name finish his book the way he wants it. That's my thoughts on it.
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I know he's still writing it but no word yet on a tentive release date or a title. CP's asking the fans to bear with him.
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I know he's still writing it but no word yet on a tentive release date or a title. CP's asking the fans to bear with him.
I would too. If they made me hurry, it would not be a good book.
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Very true. If it's rushed, you can tell and it would be a very disappointing ending to the trilogy.
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Not only that, but I'd as well write him and ask him to re-write it.
Who doesn't want a well written book? I don't think anyone does.
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