11-19-2002, 01:39 PM | #181 |
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I think Mery and Pippen got magical blades as well, to cover the plot about the barrow blades later in the RotK.
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11-19-2002, 02:00 PM | #182 |
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I sure hope so, coz it means that we've a chance of seeing Merry sticking it up the Witchking (treacherously or otherwise)! I reckon this is what they were setting up in the gift scene. I fully expect the rope to come to Sam's call as well.
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11-19-2002, 03:21 PM | #183 |
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The burp wasn't that big a deal, just un-Tolkien-like. It was cheap and unnecessary, but it's not like I was outraged or turned off the movie immediately or anything.
Was Rose a bar maid in the book? I didn't remember that. Rian, I forgot to mention in my last post that I have "color" issues, too, with BOTH of my dvds, but I think it's because I have a very old tv. I have to adjust it a little so everyone doesn't look green. I've been listening to PJ (et al)'s commentary, and it's interesting to hear how decisions were made about how things were to be done, although I still don't agree with all of the decisions . I'll be listening to the cast's commentary next! |
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Rose was a farmer's daughter............Tolkien didn't mention if she had another job .............. did he?
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Having said that I must add that I was even more impressed than before with the level of effort put into the film. The pressure of trying tyo create under the circumstance of a budgert that size with the time constraints they had must have been extrordinarily difficult. I am not worthy.
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11-19-2002, 09:31 PM | #186 | |
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OMG! I finally, finally, got the Extended Version!!! It's sooooo cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My favorite part (among all the new scenes) has got to be
It's so cool! And Sam is so cute in the boats!
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EDIT: Yes, Rose showing up as a barmaid at the Green Dragon took me off guard. It doesn't fit the image I had of her! I guess they wanted to use that scene as an opportunity for a little more interaction between Sam and Rose, and didn't really have any other place to do it. They must have figured that having her work there was preferable to having her as a patron -- it would have really shattered my image to have her dancing drunk on the tables! Last edited by azalea : 11-19-2002 at 11:04 PM. |
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I thought it was a way to explain the enchanted swords that can kill the witchking. In the book Pippin and Merry are given - "small silver belts, each with a clasp wrought likea golden flower." By the way - Jackson can come up with NO excuse for destroying the Flight to the Ford scene. Now that I have seen the extended version - I think there were a lot of action parts that could have been cut down and the charactization could have been kept in. I also think that the beginning of the movie was important. It showed how Hobbits were so isolated from the outside world. Maybe it could have been cut down a little - but I still think it was important. Gandalf actually talks intelligently during the extended version when they first introduced him and Frodo.
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11-19-2002, 11:27 PM | #190 |
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Ick!
Being the Highbrow that I am, I could have lived without the earwax extraction! I never pictured hobbits to be that doofusy, just overly conservative and clannish.
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Edit: I almost forgot LPG... I liked both the scenes between Boromir and Aragorn, especially when Aragorn declares that he will not take the ring to Minas Tirith. I really solidifies Boromir's paranoia.
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Re Merry and Pippin's swords : I think what Galadriel says is that they are swords from the Noldorin, so they would be pretty powerful. I'll have to put on the captions and check it out.
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Yup - just checked out the subtitles - "Noldorin". Should it be "Noldorim"? Where are our elven language people?
And BTW, NO *burp* or *snore* in the subtitles! And no translation of Gimli's little comment to Haldir, or of Aragorn and Haldir's discussion.
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IP - he destoryed the scene by having Arwen rescue Frodo and making him so weak that he couldn't have his defining moment against the Nazgul. That was a key scene in the book and he completely ruined it. Now I have to skip that scene everytime I watch it.
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Plus PJ missed the chance to chuck in a really cool line: Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! *sigh* Silly Kiwi.
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JD: You did say he could come up with no excuse, not no excuse that you would except. I was just pointing out the obvious. The most obvious reason is that he thought; "Gosh, Frodo's moment of solitary defiance at the ford is great. I wish he had a moment like that at the end of the movie instead of in the middle." That's it. No hidden messages, no secret agendas. Just Peter "My movies are slices of cake." Jackson shifting elements of Frodo's character around so the movie would have a more conventional ending.
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