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I would be intested in hearing what christian religion you and Rian belong to.
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group 2 - please note "say" - this means they have TALKED. group 3 - To have been entirely accurate, I should have inserted the word "some" in the bit in parenthesis, but it never even occurred to me to do this, because of the clear indications that it was people that I had TALKED to. However, I would be glad to go back and edit the sentence if it truly distresses you and you feel you need it to clarify what has already been clarified earlier in the paragraph.
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I changed the sentence you objected to, because I'm interested in being accurate. As I noted, the rest of the paragraph before this sentence used words showing it was about people I TALKED with, which certainly means that I"m not talking about ALL people, or attempting to read their minds! But if you had trouble understanding that, then I"m happy to change it and make it more clear - I have done so already
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katya - I think thinking about being a good wife is a great idea, and a guy should think about how to be a good husband. What do you think are things that make a good wife and a good husband? I'm currently reading a very good book on the subject called "Love and Respect"
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Anyway, I too think being a good wife is an admiral goal, as, obviously, is being a good husband. I think marriage is a two-way street and both people have to put effort into it. My parents have a great marriage, and I really admire them. I'm going to try to follow their example.
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So - for this last question, I'm happy to answer, but I'll either bump another thread where I posted about it, or I'll PM you a link to my denomination's web site.
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Most importantly though, the concept of us being a team is emphasized. Our family has always operated as a team and supported each other, and that's something our parents built. They also operate as a team. My brother and I never really bothered asking mom because dad said no, or vice versa, because that would never work. (If we ever did try we were quickly disappointed.) My parents made important decisions together, and were unified in fair treatment of my brother and I. Part of the reason is also that they're respectful people, but you have to earn it too. My parents have always treated each other, brother and I, with respect. As we earned more and more trust, being more mature and responsible, we earned more privledges. This ties into trust a lot. Also, they communicate well. Though they've disagreed and argued, I've never once seen them totally lose their temper with each other. Plus, they love each other very much. So one way to a happy marriage is trust, respect, communication, support, and love - by Nurvingiel's parents.
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Here's something I'll add on - I think a good wife and a good husband actively look for ways to serve each other and express love to each other. For example, every night I bring a cold glass of water and put it on my husband's bedside table, because he likes that. Is he capable of doing this himself? Of COURSE he is - and that's why MY doing it is so loving to him! He kills spiders for me - am I capable of doing that for myself? Of course! But he knows I don't like spiders - so he does it for me, along with countless other things. We had a marriage retreat a few years ago at our church, with the "survivor" theme. I forget what the original show's theme was, because I didn't watch it, but the t-shirt we got was a fun parody on that show. On the t-shirt is this : Survivor! Marriage adventure - outlove, outlast, outserve" I think that's a good attitude to have in a marriage.
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Anyway - still think the submission thing is an archaic hold over of the past. I wonder though - Valandil brings up a point about "it was the times they lived in". I wonder since slavery is consider heinous today and the excuse that the bible accepts slavery is that it was the times they lived in - maybe in todays times gay marriage, homosexuality, a woman being the same as a man is acceptable. If the bible only supported things because of the times that they lived in - maybe it goes for many other things people today cling onto.
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For the record, I absolutely do not want any kids. It's possible I'll change my mind, but I don't think I will. I'll probably get a good job myself. And there's no way in hell am I going to wear some stupid apron and be some model 50's housewife. I think the bottom line is this guy, who I've known for years and I really like, I like the idea of being a person who could make him happy. Or whoever my husband turns out to be, if I even have one. If you love someone, (friend, family, whatever) you want to make them happy, right? I don't want to be submissive. I respect myself a lot too. I'm not comprimising my own values or anything, but I care about the people I love and so it makes me happy when they're happy. Have I made any sense at all? I probably sound like a retard because I'm still just a kid. *sigh* R*an darling, thank you for your support. I suppose your ideas about submission could work for some people. Seems like your Christian ideas have made you pretty happy. And you're nice too- I like that.^^ And furthermore, some ideas that people call "sexist" or whatever have some scientific evidence to back them up too. I think I mentioned it earlier in this thread. I wish I could summarize that show in about an essay, but it's been so long... Maybe you could do some research and interpret it in your own arguments though. (Is it still conspiring if it's out in the open? ) Erm, I guess I haven't thought hard enough yet to say anything else interesting though. EDIT: Yikes! There was a whole page I hadn't read yet! Oh ho, this if fun...what makes a good husband? He should be nice and respect me. He should care about my feelings as much as I care about him. And fix the house if it breaks! And... I guess that's all. Pretty vague, I suppose. Last edited by katya : 03-17-2005 at 05:14 PM. |
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I'm going for the apron - when I bake I always seem to be wearing a dark coloured shirt and I get flour everywhere.
EDIT: I get what you're saying katya, and you don't sound silly at all! (I just thought this thread needed some levity. )
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No, you've made a lot of sense, katya sweetie! I agree - what's wrong with having a hot meal ready for your husband? Now what IS wrong, IMO, is having it ready out of anything but love - IOW, doing it out of fear, or legalism, or a feeling of obligation, or a bad type of submission.
Katya, Nurvi asked me to talk about what I understand Biblical submission is (because I've studied it) over on the religion or theology thread (forgot which one). I can't get in any long posts until next week, but I'd love for you to join into the discussion there! And you do NOT sound like a retard - stop it! You sound like a thoughtful and considerate person. And that's a great thing, in my books
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I don't like aprons, altho I like baking. But I wore one when I made Christmas cookies this year - it was an all-day fun event, and it IS pretty practical, after all! Esp. since we were working with food coloring!
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