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does not prove a christoan god
and a 747 does not exhibit living properties from inorganic material
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I suppose the question is why oppose the concept of evolution? I don't see why it cannot be reconciled with belief in God.
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Exactly, markedel. I personally belive in evolution; I have looked up a lot about it and am very interested in it, though I want to say right now that I am in no way an expert. I have said that I do not know what God is; however, I find it perfectly plausible that a creator could start the universe off with a bang, give it laws and rules (i.e. genes and other such science) and then sit back and let it take off by itself, as it were. I know I'm going to get some interesting replies to that. Fire away (though not literally, please! )
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And where does one learn that genisis speaks of physical creation of anything? It doesn't really matter if God "made" us.
Without God what is the world-random If life is random it has no purpose If you have no purpose in life then why exist Therefore you cannot exist without God -and there is the (one of the) messages of chapter 1 of Genisis. No worries about evolution, the age of the Earth or dinosaur bones.
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My Jesuit friends say genesis is a parable.
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Most Jewish commentators recommend not reading the first chapter literally.
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I will, however, share some more blessings that I alluded to. I feel aided in anything I earnestly and righteously work for. A recent and simple example is that, well, I'm a late sleeper. I've had to get up far earlier than I'm used to lately, and I've never done well at awakening early, even with an alarm clock. I contritely requested that I be helped in the morning to the Lord and it's been granted. Now, as I said, that's a simple example, and one that you could point to other things for the result. The blessings often vary according to my present needs and what the Lord wants me to do. I admire your frankness, as I said before, but I'm not sure if I'll look at this thread again... I'd much rather revel in similarities between beliefs than point out possible problems.
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Okay..I admire people's determination, and I really do like reading this thread...but is it just me (and Nibs, it seems), or is this thread stuck in a hole? It is very interesting....but...well...I don't know. It's a little stuck. What was the original purpose of the thread? Because I don't think it was arguing about evolution vs. genesis.
Sorry if this is blunt...I don't mena to be harsh and all, but I couldn't think of a better way to say it without adding in a lot more um's and ah's and elipses... -tano
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That is true, Earniel...but I'm not sure if the point is whether they CAN interbreed as opposed to whether they DO. In captivity, lions and tigers have been bred (although the resulting offspring is sterile), but in the wild, they are separate species and don't mate with each other voluntarily.
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That brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "lions and tigers and bears; oh my!"
Soon we'll have bions, tears, bigers, tions, and lears running amok over the place! Build a shelter while you still can!
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God knows everything. God knows the future of humanity. The future of humanity is set - otherwise known as fate. If fate is set, we have no free will. If we have no free will, life has no purpose. If you have no purpose in life, why exist? Therefore, you cannot exist with God.
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FF, can you give a definite purpose of life? If you can, I could see where you are coming from in that argument.
The future of humanity is obviously not set in stone. The world was intended to be a paradise, and death was not supposed to occur, but because Eve gave into the devil's temptations...and yadda yadda yadda, you know all that. We have free will, and we are in charge of our futures, to some extent (others also alter it, like the college board on whether or not they accept you). Don't you think that if, saying God does exist and we didn't have free will, that we would all believe in Him? Disclaimer: All of what is said is my belief, I'm not saying you have to agree.
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