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07-11-2006, 06:06 PM | #181 |
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hokay ...
(actually i meant on the moot here Jammi... ) .................................................. ......... so is there then a consensus that the swords were nothing especially special? Merely that happy would they who wrought them have been to know their fate - to pin one into a leg and cause the WK to stumble? or are there still those who think these are somehow cryptonite super swords that are effectively portable fires of veritable doom for the nazgul ?? (or is that actually just too preposterous to even entertain seriously? ) best, BB bearing in mind Eowyn's sword wot did the deed was nothing special at all ... though she was a sexy blonde and that makes her a femme fatal to the WK ... should they have done a Herod think you? ... and tried to kill all blonde girls at birth?, or send wights, balrogs et al to "defend" ALL these also??? you'd almost think there was only one knife (long enough for swords for hobbit folk walking abroad south and east) (let alone sword) from the peroid knocking about now wouldn't you? Last edited by Butterbeer : 07-11-2006 at 06:11 PM. |
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But then, as my old physics teacher used to say (usually when the football team or the band was being summoned from studying the laws of motion of the theory of optics in his physics class to some practice for extracurricular activity), Quote:
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07-11-2006, 06:41 PM | #186 | |
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why???? (other than a quote that is clearly written for dramatic effect and for the story at that momment) Last edited by Butterbeer : 07-11-2006 at 06:44 PM. |
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07-11-2006, 06:46 PM | #188 |
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07-11-2006, 06:52 PM | #191 |
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so... they would not work, say, against a troll or an orc?
Is this not ,then, problematical? best, BB *edit** ... cross post ...don't all swords work one at a time? Is that not a superfluous defence? Last edited by Butterbeer : 07-11-2006 at 06:54 PM. |
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07-11-2006, 07:03 PM | #193 | |
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First off, in Tolkien’s world, the most powerful opponents seem to very often meet face to face. Remember that both Gandalf and Glorfindel come very close to fighting hand to hand with the Witch King. Second, the barrow blades weren’t exactly the key to defeating Angmar or Mordor. Useful tools, yes, but not of too much importance compared with other things. Sure, Angmar probably would have immediately fallen if the Witch King had been destroyed, but getting a good “shot at him” must have been very difficult. I would guess that this is much of the reason why knowledge of the swords seemed to have been lost to all but the Nazgul themselves and Bombadil. The only times that we know of when they had an impact was when they appeared unexpectedly (for the Witch King). Third, it would just seem kind of weird to have someone extremely powerful digging into a tomb and facing the undead to arm much weaker people to face an opponent that this powerful person could face himself without such a weapon. Also, as jammi pointed out, someone who needs the blade to fight a Nazgul, may be too afraid to use it. |
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07-11-2006, 07:08 PM | #195 |
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ohh, right.
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And come to think of it, the Witch-king wasn't killed by the barrow-blade: it apparently made him vulnerable to Eowyn's blade. So maybe it just made the troll vulnerable to something else. Wouldn't this part of the discussion be done greater justice in a thread for the purpose of discussing the barrow-blades? There must be an old one lying about here someplace... Last edited by Alcuin : 07-11-2006 at 07:24 PM. |
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Of course, Pippin’s blade did prove useful against a Troll and the Hobbits did manage to get a few Orcs with them also. |
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