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I really must go to bed, my comprehension is getting low... I was just commenting that I don't think a law where people are forced to demonstrate their religion would stand in Canada (whether this is occuring elsewhere in the world or not). Quote:
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You comment that a law forcing people to demonstrate their religion would be 'scary'. But you don't seem to notice the virtually identical laws that have been passed around the world preventing people from demonstrating their faith. If forcing people to say 'merry christmas' strikes a nerve with you, consider this - Two girls in minnesota were reprimanded this december for saying “Merry Christmas” in a school skit. Shouldn't that strike you as equally scary?
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Thank you, Wayfarer!
You know the old saw about the horse and the water, right? I fear I deal with hydrophobic equines! ![]() ![]() ![]() Nurv, please note #164 and #168 in this thread ![]()
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And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand As they have done for centuries, as they will For centuries to come, when not a soul Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks, When England is not England, when mankind Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea, Consolingly disastrous, will return While the strange starfish, hugely magnified, Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool. Last edited by sun-star : 12-17-2004 at 08:20 AM. |
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...so it's an evergreen, a Hannuka Bush, a Christmas Tree; but the federal holiday which everyone takes and most get paid for is called Christmas....Moses and Mohammed had louy p.r. people and so we don't all get off for their days.
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of interest...perhaps!
Teachers' fears over Christmas 17 December 2004 Teachers have raised fears that Christmas is being cancelled in schools across the country after a poll found dwindling support for traditional celebrations. A quarter of teachers said their schools would not be holding a carol service this year, the poll for the Times Educational Supplement found. And one in seven primary teachers said their schools would not stage a nativity play, the survey of 789 teachers in England and Wales found. Half of those surveyed said their schools were holding celebrations with no religious content, the paper reported. The findings concerned the Association of Christian Teachers (ACT). Chris Alloway, a London ACT representative, told the TES: "Increasingly we are celebrating all other world religions, making sure we are not offending anyone, but then not acknowledging our own - even at Christmas. "Christmas in our schools is just being eroded away." But a spokesman for the Church of England insisted that nativity plays and carol services were "alive and well". "Nativity plays are held in almost all primary schools including those with many children from different faith backgrounds," he said. "An overwhelming majority of primary and secondary schools hold carol concerts as part of the generally high level of religious observance related to Christmas."
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My primary school never held a nativity play, and I don't think it was a loss. We had a Christmas Pageant and we would sing carols, do a Christmas themed play (Santa, Charlie Brown Christmas etc.) It was great fun!
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Topical Humor
Okay. The whole discussion about Political Correctness in regards to Christmas reminded me of a very funny article I read in USN&WR a few years back. I actually found a copy online - it was written by John Leo (if anyone has heard of him. He frequently writes about political correctness).
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![]() The fundamental problem is, Nurvingiel, not with people who would rather say "I'm dreaming of a snow-day some time in pre-spring". It's with those people being able to prevent anybody from saying anything different. That is what political correctness is - not just affirmitive action (the favoring of certain groups over others) but the downright persecution of certain segments of the population of the favored groups.
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True, it is merely annoying, and not a problem, to try to make everything neutral and bland.
Can you persecute a majority? Does this happen in Canada, because I've never noticed it. (Me not noticing it doesn't mean it doesn't occur, but it suggests it's not common in British Columbia anyway.)
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At my daughter's public high school on thursday night I had the pleasure of sitting through 2 1/2 hours of holiday music that included Christian and Jewish songs, as well as secular ditties like Let It Snow. And we are about 90% liberal in southeast Portland. We believe in "inclusion" not "exclusion".
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Hey, no Kwaanza music? No Muslim winter tunes? JUST HOW INCLUSIVE ARE YOU THERE IN PORTLAND?
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No kidding! In my mind.....
Fat = fat...whatever...just fat morbidly obese = huge, montrous, hanging buckets of fat that are going to kill you! I've been seeing more and more of this type of thing lately though! ![]() ![]()
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