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In the Canadian election thread, Hectorberlioz and I were talking a bit about protesting gay marriage, and whether or not it would be discrimination against gays.
Now I want to know what you guys think. Let's turn the question around for more objectivity (since the following scenario would probably never happen): Would you consider people protesting against straight people marrying discrimination against heterosexuals? Sorry to derail your current discussion there.
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01-31-2006, 04:50 PM | #182 |
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No, Nurv. Marriage is between the sexes. That requires a male and a female. That requirement is not met in same sex unions of any civil sort. It is not marriage and never will be. We have this discussion at length in the MARRIAGE thread.
However, here's some real discrimination... http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/...-thinking.html Australia, France, ... or, Hamas controlled areas, http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatc...ves/009926.php and women, http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...icle341930.ece
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02-01-2006, 12:43 PM | #184 |
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Hamas won because it is a majority, Nurv. At least, that seems to be the reason.
What have you got against blogs as sources of news items all of a sudden, Nurv? Or, are you saying that if the "mainstream media" reports it, 'whatever' must be true, and that observers not of the "mainstream media" are inherently inaccurate. Sound discriminatory in your usual use of the word to me.
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The blending of fact and opinion are in many ways becoming more transparent. The internet has News delivery forever changed, errrrr, as long as we all have affordable and easy access that is. Newscasters themselves admit which Blogs they daily read and journalist (consistant contributitors to media -- magaizines, newspapers, etc) site blogs in their articles. It's a strange development, but as long as more than just a 'few' are read and from 'many' perspectives I think it to be a 'good' thing, eh.
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Lotesse, your acumen is definitely off today, maybe you need a crystal re-alignment or something?
I said that if a blog reports legitimate data and cites the source (in this case the epidemiologist for the area) it is a legitimate source for the material. You seem to be confusing that with the blogosphere in general. I realize that it is a distinction but it's not that difficult a one to make, IMHO. And, I must note, the only reason one can take exception to my having cited the blogosphere is the fact that I so did. I can hear the uproar now if I had merely posted the article without any citation. Relatively speaking, you should have no complaints.
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No dear, YOU need a biblical alignment! You obviously need more than that, but I guess I'll try and ease off on baiting your highness. I just can't resist, though. You're hilarious!!
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shouldn't your sig be "carpe deum" ?
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Touche, monsignor! Nice comeback!
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why is it that all these message board people are discriminating against blogs? oh whats that...? huh?*reads thread title* ohh discrimination thread ok I get it now.
edit: on a serious note. wasn't it awful to see how bigoted the [U.S] democratic party was about confirming Samuel Alito. Now that was some discrimination, but he won in the end as everyone expected so there was no reason for those democrats to be so nasty about it *sigh* politicians, "can't live with em, can't live without em" Have we ever tried living without them?
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I suspect that one would belong in the "Political Mudslinging" thread. Though maybe there are too many of them to choose...
Of course, it's not discrimination to identify high risk groups and risky health behaviours. However, the association of HIV with gays plays into the hands of those who would like to perpetuate discrimination against them and propagate the idea that this is a "diseased lifestyle". These sorts of assumptions lie at the root of all discrimination and are all to easy to reinforce with disingenuous placement of "data". The HIV thread is here: http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/show...highlight=Aids |
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damn conservatives and wanting to take away abortion and gay and lesbian marriages...whats up with that?
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"So opposing someone who holds the opposite view on just about every single political and social issue is bigoted? To me that sounds like doing your duty and reflecting your constituants. Are you saying every supreme court candidate should be rubber stamped by congress or else they are being bigots?" 'Course that swings both ways!
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Yes, I agree rohirrim TR; the Democrats LOVE to do smear campaigns against things and individuals they don't like or don't want in power. Dems are notorious for that. They're being ridiculous about Alito. Alito will make an excellent Supreme Court Judge.
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You guys are such hypocrites. Have you forgotten about poor Ms. Harriet Miers already? You know the nominee that got the REPUBLICANS all in a huff and saying nasty things about her and causing such a fuss that she was forced to actually withdraw? And why? Because the extreme right wing about blew a gasket because they didnt want some dame who might not be adamantly against abortion on the supreme court. And the republicans in congress were reflecting their constituents (and nervously thinking about 2006) JUST as the democrats were with Alito. So it goes BOTH ways. Thats politics. Wake up. Its not a democratic tactic alone. Anyone who thinks so doesnt know their history too well. Whats next? Defending poor Tom DeLay for being so unfairly tarred and feathered by the democrats for these silly corruption charges?
And the fact that Alito may have been a member of a racist group in college is fair game as far as Im concerned and I dont really get how that makes the democrats bigots. Also, which democrats came out and said they are absolutely voting against Alito BEFORE the hearings? Even Kennedy didnt say that. They are careful to be sure to say they dont like this or that about them but they want to get some answers from them during the hearings before they make a final decision. Furthermore, four democrats actually voted FOR Alito so this "all democrats" talk is wrong from the start. Check the facts. And check what the republicans do when its their turn.
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Tis true, both major political parties are guilty of slinging mud. Neither party is blameless in that vein. I don't know why I even said anything; the truth is I abhor politics and they can both be ashamed of themselves, collectively speaking, for all the disgusting sleaze-tactics and shadiness they employ, the LOT of them.
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