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And its NOT christian AT ALL of course...
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11-30-2016, 08:56 PM | #22 |
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I just feel sorry for Val's children... he wrestles away control of the computer with the promise..."wont be long kids, just going to write a quick comment on Entmoot"
Now i know why there hasn't been a quote game post for so long Interesting read. Maybe America just had a blonde moment? You can imagine the film treatment: *deep trailer voice*: "2 dumb blondes, one great nation divided... from the creators of the twilight zone, and the multiple Rasberry-winning director of "you just couldnt make this (beep) up" and the heart-wrenching classic soul-destroying Horror "Politics 2016"... comes a modern day tale of Misogyny and Mexicans, Corruption and crookedness" I'm curious, since everyone tends to agree its the two worst candidates of all time, who our American Mooters would have liked to see run (be nominated by the Donkeys and the Elephants) instead and why? |
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I think the biggest problem the media has is not being the Mouth of the Left but being too invested in drama. If an election isn't dramatic enough, they'll find something to make it dramatic and that's what we see here. If the news they bring is boring, then people aren't interested, so it must be livened up, even if that's digging up drama where there isn't any. Trump, now Trump is a drama-generating machine all on his own. The media love Trump, he will always say something divisive they can put on the newspaper headline. Trump knows this too, most of his money comes from perpetuating his own brand of Trumpishness. Also, RE this specifically: Quote:
This guy is advocating rapist views on primetime, and I bet he has made a lot of fans in that area. Loudly threathening to sue all the women who have accused him of abuse? Pretending it couldn't have happened because they're not pretty enough for him? Classic rapist tactic and that's not the only one. It's shown time and time again that sexual assault is one of the hardest things to prove, and one of the fields in which the least prosecutions and convictions happen, people like him thrive on that. Quote:
She stands by her cheating husband? Shame on her, the spineless [expletive], does she have no will of her own? She denounces her husband? Shame on her, the treacherous [expletive], doesn't she know any loyality? She remains silent? Shame on her, the two-timing [expletive] she should take a stand! She defends him? Shame on her, the betraying [expletive] she must be lying, bet she was in on it from the start! Think about it, what is a woman in that position to do? The reaction of the wife is always critisized much worse than the actual crime of the husband because, well, 'boys will be boys, right?' His crime will always be thrown in her face. Never the other way around. Is that fair, hell no, but that's society for you. I will have no part of shaming women for the crime of others. Quote:
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So I don't think voting with ID should be much of a problem, (heck, I've been doing it for years) but only if it isn't used as a weapon to deny people of legal voting standing the chance to vote. IDs too should be IMO obtainable without Kafka-like mechanisms or pricy pricetages (pointed look at Belgian officials) that leave the poor, migrants or less-informed without legal papers and no representation. And the issues with who controls the voter rolls and how they can be changed also plays a part. And IMO that seems where most of the fear against letting the GOP handling ID for voting comes from, rather than the actual principle of voting on ID. Quote:
I am rather interested in the recounts now, though I don't think it'll change the outcome. But it would be interesting to see if the process could was rigged. I mean, everybody's been opining away about potential rigging to high heaven these last weeks, well let's stop whining and nuckle down to find out once and for all so we can stop guessing. Shouldn't everybody now be interested to know whether the system is sound? Was it all hot air? Or should a lot of democracies that use computer voting be wanting to check their own systems? Quote:
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Ooookay, then why isn't Trump or Bernie buried like ten feet under now? Quote:
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At least most republics have the opportunity to get rid of those once and a while! Monarchies usually need a honkin' fullblown revolution for that... Quote:
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12-06-2016, 06:40 AM | #24 |
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I suspect mithrand1r has watched one too many Walt Disney movies...
Shrek isn't representative of most Modern day Democratic Monarchies... now, if you will excuse me, Snow White and I have to go bow/curtsy to Queen Grimhilde, repress some Dwarves and stamp out silly illusions. @ Eärniel wish you'd stop sitting on the fence all the time This is one of those threads where if you start ...you'd find yourself writing for ages. Frankly it's far too early in the morning for such Tookish tom-foolery. The one thing i will say from reading the different (largely) partisan views on both sides ref 'THE Media' is... that's a misnomer and an increasingly out of date one too. If y'all mean the 'mass media' then its slightly more accurate but again id say increasingly out of date - media has diverged, mass media is out of touch- a hidebound unchanging beast slowly throttling and choking itself that is quickly becoming a dodo, and knows it. But even then there is much more divergence than ever there was- you can pick and choose what mass media you prefer to be irate at... That's liberal Humanism meeting free markets for yah- via new technologies - a rather combustible combination eh wot? |
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Funny, it looks like a nice comfy chair from where I'm sitting...
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12-09-2016, 12:25 PM | #26 |
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Thanks Earn, most of the things you said was what I was thinking, but I'm not that good at expressing myself.
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12-10-2016, 06:47 PM | #27 |
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Thanks, but I have to say: the time to sit down and calmly construct your argument without time pressure always makes me looks articulate. Real time me is so not.
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12-13-2016, 02:43 PM | #28 |
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At least you manage if you have time
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12-19-2016, 11:34 PM | #29 |
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Good stuff Eärniel! Couldn't have said it better!!
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01-24-2017, 09:09 AM | #30 |
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And now it's official...
...which part of me is still boggling about. If the last few days are an indication we're not going to like the next few years, I'm thinking. We're going to be kept on our toes daily. And there will be a lot of insulting, gaslighting, fake news and |
01-24-2017, 03:58 PM | #31 |
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"Truth" is irrelevant. If you repeat a lie enough times it becomes fact. So Trump clearly had 9 billion people to his inauguration. Putin can corroborate that. And if you say otherwise or post pictures showing otherwise you are clearly involved in a political conspiracy trying to undermine his win. Sad!
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02-22-2017, 04:36 AM | #32 |
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I'm trying to look on the bright side of USStRumpistan this and.... well.... I guess it won't matter WHAT anybody else who runs for President may have or has done or is doing or will do, the whole 'get down on' this or that person for this or that has really become irrelevant. I mean, this first month of trumpshirtism makes Nixon and Watergate look so damn trivial. And to believe Gary Hart pulled out of running for President in 1984 because he was seen on a yacht with a woman other than his wife, or the Republicans tried to impeach a sitting president for getting a blow job from an intern. I mean, all the things that used to be expected of a President of the USA have all be shoveled into the bin with trump and his clown-car of billionaires doing the American Citizens, and by extension, the rest of the world, from behind and grabbing the cash while they do it. Putin won the cold war with the help of a bunch of white racists and all who indirectly agreed with them by casting their vote for this. Onya you fools.
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03-03-2017, 08:28 AM | #33 |
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This is a great post, and 100% accurate.
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03-04-2017, 04:42 PM | #34 |
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Yes, well. It's mind-boggling.
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