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Hate to break it to you, but there aren't really any half-elves.
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Yes... Elrond is half Elven, but had chosen to be Elf.
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And Elros is Half-Elven, but chose to be a Man.
So you would either be and Elf with a human parent, (Elrond) or a mortal human with and elf parent, (Elros).
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04-03-2003, 05:36 PM | #125 |
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Elves are respectable, kinda girly in a way, but they are NOT immortal as Peter Jackson says. They do die. Hate to brake it to you PJ, but if Elves die in battle, THEY'RE NOT IMMORTAL! heehee, sry.
Elves are kool, and if i just thought of the bat what i would want to be in M-E, i would be a Wizard, not an Elf. HA!
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The original design of Elves is that they do not die. It was Melkor's tainting of the world that changed those designs. Thus, Elves can die because of great stresses to their bodies (ie, battle, or the extreme cold as seen at the crossing of the Helkaraxe), or because of great grief. None of that was part of the original design for Elves.
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In the Athrabeth, Andreth tells Finrod that Men were never meant to die and were like the Elves, but they had done something against Eru and death was imposed upon them. Finrod does state though, that Morgoth's taint on the world did however weaken the Elves in body.
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But in Morgoth's Ring HoME 10...fëa
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As I said, the Elven body was not a durable after the tainting of Arda. finrod says so himself, but they were immortal within the bounds of the world.
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If yes, then we're saying the same thing, basically. I'm saying Elves were meant to never die, but because the plan for the world was changed by Melkor, Elves' bodies did die (due to great stresses upon their body or spirit). But to compensate and "fix" the plan, they were reborn (with the same memory and spirit) again. That fulfills the original plan by Iluvatar. |
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Yep. I think we're one the same page.
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Indeed.
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