09-06-2005, 02:59 AM | #101 |
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hey, Beren's on!
*bumps thread*
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
09-06-2005, 03:44 AM | #102 |
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I didn't notice your response to my post, RÃ*an. Sorry about that! I'll respond sometime soon . Perhaps after the school week, which would be in about four days. I might get to it sooner than that, though. I'm more focused on the debate on the Theology thread at present, but I'll get back to predestination soon.
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09-09-2005, 04:24 PM | #103 | ||
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From our perspectives, we do have choice. When I write a book, I create characters and from their perspectives, they do have choices they can make. I never will impose my will over my characters and force them to accept good or evil in an illogical way. Quote:
I think that through pain and suffering, people can be truly blessed by God. I know that you believe this too. Suffering and trials can greatly enhance people's relationships with God, and I think that's one key reason why he chooses them for his followers. He chooses wrath and judgment for unbelievers on the Last Day apparently, according to Romans 9, to make his wrath and judgment known to those he has chosen for eternal bliss.
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If the world has indeed, as I have said, been built of sorrow, it has been built by the hands of love, because in no other way could the soul of man, for whom the world was made, reach the full stature of its perfection. ~Oscar Wilde, written from prison Oscar Wilde's last words: "Either the wallpaper goes, or I do." |
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09-09-2005, 05:53 PM | #104 |
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no, I meant "best" for those that perish, not "best" in general.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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Just bumping this thread for old times' sake
I recently re-read PL and memorized a very beautiful line by Eve (talking to Adam): Book IV, lines 639,640: Quote:
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One question that comes to my mind, in the part about "all please alike", is about the beautiful ambiguity Milton creates here. Do you think "all please alike" is here used in the sense that everything is pleasant when they're together or is Milton allowing himself poetic license and using "please" as a noun instead of pleasure to mean that Eve forgets all other pleasures when she's with Adam? Last edited by Beren3000 : 11-14-2013 at 09:29 AM. |
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01-04-2014, 01:57 PM | #106 |
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I think she means that under the presence of Adam all seasons please alike, i.e., their individual charms are equally distributed as less than those he affords by his presence and their conversation.
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