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Oh lord… James Inhofe is a well known right wing stooge and blowhard and one of the last real hold outs when it comes to global warming. Its also not a coincidence that he represents some of the biggest oil and gas interests in the country… And this is from his own blog! Not the language of some official government body despite the fact you make it look like it is with that link. Inhofe has been called out more than once for his ignorance, distortions and downright lies he has made about global warming.
Check out the debunking sites listed below. It gives lots of information about Inhofe’s claims: http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/9/25/17124/9789 Quote:
I don’t have time to go through each of these preposterous claims that often amount to word tricks or using short term variations as the only data source. But here are just a few links debunking many of the claims that Inhofe posts (and that have been debunked many times before but he ignores that…) http://debunking.pbwiki.com/The+Heartland+Institute http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/2...fail-to-grasp/ http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/4/175028/329 http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporat...e/myths/2.html http://environment.newscientist.com/...change/dn14527 http://www.skepticalscience.com/glob...ed-in-1998.htm http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/2008/...th-gets-fried/ http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/2008/...is-over-again/ http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/2008/...ses-are-level/ Desperate delusional head in the sand nonsense…
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11-26-2008, 07:09 AM | #82 |
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11-26-2008, 12:50 PM | #83 |
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Yep, one of the great things about the last two election cycles is that that crank has been firmly removed from any position of influence.
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11-27-2008, 12:49 PM | #84 |
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11-27-2008, 04:47 PM | #85 |
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And this just in! http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=54528
Also started during the crank era!
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11-28-2008, 10:40 AM | #86 | ||
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inked, if you're quoting articles in support of your argument, it helps to find ones that actually support your argument, instead of blowing it out of the water. Or do you ever read past the headline?
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10-29-2010, 12:56 AM | #87 |
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Al Gore really takes the message to the people about global warming! He apparently did not watch his own movie or ...
http://climatedepot.com/a/8595/Gore-...transportation I’ll start to believe that global warming is a crisis when global warming believers start acting like they believe it.
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More Gore!
GORE UNHINGED! LOSES IT ...
http://climatedepot.com/a/12210/Gore...Depot-Responds ......."Former Vice President Al Gore sounded a defeated tone and lamented the utter failure of the man-made global warming movement during a speech to the Aspen Institute in Colorado on August 4, 2011. Gore used multiple curse words in an emotional speech that revealed his deep frustration and all but conceded defeat to global warming skeptics. Defeated Gore unleashes: 'It's no longer acceptable in mixed company, meaning bipartisan company, to use the goddamn word 'climate'...we cannot possibly come to an agreement on it' - August 5, 2011" Gore Claim: 'It may be volcanoes.' Bullshit!' Reality Check: Gore has not been keeping up on the latest data and peer-reviewed studies. Yes, volcanoes can and do have a big impact on global warming. See: Flashback 2008 Study: 'Lack of observed [volcanic] dust in atmosphere could be responsible for as much as .18 to .36 degrees F rise (about 1/3rd) in avg. temp since the 1960s' -- 'Earth's atmosphere is comparatively free of volcanic dust, and that relatively large amounts of sunlight are being refracted through the Earth's atmosphere' Gore Claim: 'It may be sun spots.' Bullshit!' Reality Check: Gore simply is trapped in the Co2 or bust mode of thinking. See: 2009 Peer-Reviewed Study: 'Sunspot cycle has a big effect on the earth's weather' Gore Claim: 'It's not getting warmer.' Bullshit!' Reality Check: Gore may want to scream 'Bullshit' as his pal, UN IPCC Chair Pachauri who has acknowledged global warming has stopped. Flashback 2008: UN IPCC Chairman Pachauri 'to look into the apparent temperature plateau so far this century'......." Much more with video link to Al's little "moment" and peer-reviewed articles refuting his bald-faced assertions contray to reality. ENJOY!
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08-09-2011, 04:34 AM | #89 |
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Where are the factual inaccuracies in what Gore said?
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08-10-2011, 09:11 PM | #90 |
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The linked studies, should you care to look. Al doesn't, apparently, even bother to listen to the IPCC.
NO surprise.
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08-11-2011, 05:52 AM | #91 |
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No they're not. I looked. It is, as Gore says, "bullshit".
Or, to be more precise, deliberate misrepresentation. But I think Bullshit is a bit snappier. Nah, course there's no global warming. |
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Here we go again...
Yea, ten years of banging your head against a brick wall of stupidity, dishonesty, and ideologically-inspired blindness can do that to a guy. Quote:
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http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...nar-eclipse-p/ http://www.newscientist.com/article/...Id=space_rss20
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and BTW, 0.1 to 0.2 of a 0.6 change is between 1/6 and 1/3,
not "about 1/3rd" So what explains the other 2/3 to 5/6 of the change?
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Note that the following 3 arguments are made in this one article: 1)scientific studies show global warming is caused by a lack of volcanic activity, not human activity 2)scientific studies show global warming is caused by sunspots/cosmic rays, not human activity and 3) there is no global warming
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I waded through a few more of the other claims- you eventually end up at either an already refuted denialist claim or the original research that doesn't say what the article says it does- if you want to waste your time on this, it's simply more of the usual bafflegab and bull
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Thanks GM, you performed an important public service there.
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08-12-2011, 09:36 PM | #97 |
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I think Al is pissed because his carbon offset business is in peril. Or else he believes his flying jets and use of electricity are not conducive to global warming. Probably because he invented the internet - one of the large usages of electricity in the world these days.
Of course, there are natural variations in warming and CO2 and O2 levels. Just ask the now extinct two-foot wingspan dragonflies of the past or trilobites or dinosaurs. Shall we stay the hand of nature so completely as not to imperil humanity? Is it possible? Is there only a human cause to climate change/global warming or Gaia implacable? Enquiring minds and all that............. There is however, reason to hope: http://www.sf-fandom.com/vbulletin/s...Climate-Change
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Legitimate reasons why the stall in the climate change confuses folks...
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/gene...perature_rise_ http://www.sciencenews.org/view/gene...e_gas_emitters http://www.sciencenews.org/view/gene...cooler_climate http://www.sciencenews.org/view/gene...s_missing_heat Naysayers are not without evidence of their own, but interpretations may differ, of course. Al G nonwithstanding.....
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