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Tolkien and Mary Renault
Not sure this is the right subforum, but just found out that Mary Renault, one of my favorite historical fiction writers when I was younger, had Tolkien as a tutor at Oxford.
And he liked her work, too. Letters 294: Quote:
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02-11-2010, 03:35 PM | #2 |
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Turns out being an RC in fact doesn't necessarily make one a vicious bigot.
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02-12-2010, 04:32 AM | #4 |
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It's been a long time since I've read them, but now that I think about it, there isn't a lot of male homosexuality in the two books Tolkien was referring to, unlike her other works set later in Greek history (a bit of Sapphic love, though).
A lot of Goddess worship, lamenting their replacement by the Sky Gods- standard anthropological fare back in the day- and one direct hit on monotheism, in the form of a young Israelite who scandalizes all the good pagans with his intolerance for other peole's worship. Though looking back at the letter, he does mention liking her other works, too. And glad to see Eddison mentioned there- "The Worm Ourobouros" is classic, though the Zimiamvia Trilogy is a hard slog- fans of "The Faerie Queene" would probably appreciate it. And somewhat surprised to see he liked John Christopher's "The Death of Grass" ("No Blade of Grass" in the US), a fairly grim post-apocalypse tale, as well as Azimov (sic), a noted believer in progress and technology. Obviously a man of catholic tastes
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Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep. Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them? "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals."- Winston Churchill Last edited by GrayMouser : 02-12-2010 at 04:39 AM. |
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