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I have little facts on the subjects, but I do know that colors have been described very differently from our scientific spectrum in other times and cultures. For example, the same word is used to describe two colors that we would separate today. It makes me wonder on the Prof.s views on this matter. Being a linguist and historian no doubt he was aware of this. |
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just cruising the old threads
and I guess I could say As a WHOLE the Calaquendi where the ass kickers for non-Calaquendi who where equal to great noldor I guess Beleg,Mablung, Cirdan, Celeborn, Daeron, and Eol seem to be the best canidates I quess that Amroth and Thranduil, even though the later was a jerk at times, had to be above your run of the mill sindar to be able to rule
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just saw in the SIL that is says something to the effect that the SIL was mostly concerened with the Noldor. so its hard to say of individuals of the the morquendi who were "great"
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Remeber Ingwe, chieftain of the Vanyar? He is held to be the High-King of the Elvish race, and is still alive and kicking in Aman(major assumption). We don't know much about them, save for the fact that they do a lot of singing and music and poetry. But if I remember correctly, some Vanyar fought in the wars against Morgoth in the First Age, but I don't remember how they fared.
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someone mentioned them above but I was trying to limit it to the noldor
the vanyar returned to ME in the War of Wrath some have speculated that Glorfindel may have been Vanyar
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You were trying to limit it to the Noldor?? I thought you wanted non-Noldor.
Besides this, you said that Elwe did not count, being technically "Caliquendi". That doesn't make him not non-Noldor. (Woah negatives...) So if he is non-Noldor, why does he not count, if we take the Vanyar or Teleri(Grey elves, etc) as counting. Did you also want to limit it to Moriquendi? |
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you mis understood my above reply
I 'll make it more clear, sorry I only wanted the NON-noldor ( moriquendi) compared to the Noldor. Not the other calaquendei
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Oic, so you want Moriquendi and of those, non-Noldor. Jeez I must be slow this morning...
Well, Cirdan for one, but he has already been mentioned... |
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i hadn't read the SIL when I started this thread.
and I was looking for a character to play in the up coming decipher PnP RPG for LOTR. I didn't want an uber-elf. I HATE muchkin style gaming. So i was trying to find references to morquendi who where outstanding in some way. so even though the exiles as a whole where more powerful because of the light of valinor within them. i was hoping that ALL moriquendi weren't punk *****es compared to the returned Noldor who were quite powerful. I know no one could touch the descedants of finwe ( save maybe cirdan) but wanted to see how ecthelion, glorfindel, gwindor. voronwe might stack up against Celeborn,Mablung,Beleg, Eol, Daeron etc. even though my character would be a dark skinned avari form the late 3rd age i was looking for SOME precedent of moriquendi that were outstanding in someway. then I recalled the line in the SIL that is says something to the effect that the SIL was mostly concerened with the Noldor. so its hard to say of individuals of the the morquendi who were "great" though it was obvious that the Noldo were the most powerful( as a whole) elves in ME ( not arda)
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Glorfindel is Da Man or The Mystique of a Noldar Lord | afro-elf | Lord of the Rings Books | 9 | 10-23-2001 05:01 PM |