Left, Right, Middle Pundits

hectorberlioz · 06-19-2006, 08:58 PM

First of all I want to say that Radio is something I just don't like to listen to.
But, I must confess, I'm a Bill O'Reilly listener.

I disagree with him sometimes, even a lot, be it his conclusions, or how he came to certain conclusions. He may even be erring when it comes to being critical/uncritical of things such as polls.

But I listen to him because he, unlike other talk show hosts, actually seems to want figure out solutions.

Even though he gets "Reillied" (riled) up, he never resorts to insulting even (ok, except maybe George Soros

) the lefties personally.

So before you guys leap at my throat for listening to him, I'd like to know who anyone else listens to, if at all...well, actually, you can list your source for news too.

btw, I also listen to NPR...

Gwaimir Windgem · 06-19-2006, 09:47 PM

...News?

***Jonathan*** · 06-20-2006, 06:57 AM

I sometimes watch The O'Reilly Factor just to see if he has any new controversal views to reveal. I don't like the man. FOX news is so slanted and The O'Reilly Factor contributes more than anything to FOX's mockery of journalism.

That's what makes O'Reilly entertaining though

afro-elf · 06-20-2006, 09:11 AM

The only thing I can say is that I have seen a few people walk all over him, Angela Davis comes to mind, and he can acknowledge defeat.

hectorberlioz · 06-20-2006, 11:59 AM

Of course NPR News...

They actually don't seem to be as biased when it comes to actual news reporting, though they're just as bad as any liberal media when it comes time to do interviews etc...

Terri Gross especially. I mean really, the gal laughed in complete comraderie with every evolutionist, left-wing cartoonist (that was especially disgusting) that they ever invited. Of course, she's free to believe and agree with whatever she feels, but the professsionalism really breaks down when it shows so blatantly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan

I sometimes watch The O'Reilly Factor just to see if he has any new controversal views to reveal. I don't like the man. FOX news is so slanted and The O'Reilly Factor contributes more than anything to FOX's mockery of journalism.

That's what makes O'Reilly entertaining though

Really? I think most other media is so left-wing that FOX seems like a super-conservative show, even though they arent particularly conservative or liberal...

but he also gets accused of stuff he definitely doesn't do. For instance, Leonard Pitts accused him of endorsing Anne Coulter's comments about the Jersey Widows when actually criticised her for it. Shows you how much Mr. Pitts knows...
He also grouped him with Michael Savage, which is incredibly ridiculous. Michael Savage is a weirdo, despite some occasional things he has said, which I could say better IMO. O'Reilly is far from the Savage crowd.

***Jonathan*** · 06-20-2006, 12:16 PM

Actually, O'Reilly do remind me a little of Savage

. Though you're right that Savage is a weirdo and O'Reilly is not.

hectorberlioz · 06-21-2006, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan

Actually, O'Reilly do remind me a little of Savage

. Though you're right that Savage is a weirdo and O'Reilly is not.

Fair enough, Hillary Clinton reminds me of the Medusa...

**Nurvingiel** · 06-22-2006, 02:04 AM

I think Jon Stewart (politically liberal) is completely hilarious. Did anyone watch the "type o dong" episode last night?

Where are the hilarious right-wing guys though? We need to balance the funny.

Insidious Rex · 06-22-2006, 01:10 PM

The Colbert Report!

**Nurvingiel** · 06-22-2006, 08:00 PM

Linkage?

(That guy is a conservative comdeian? I hope to balance the funny.

)

hectorberlioz · 06-22-2006, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

Linkage?

(That guy is a conservative comdeian? I hope to balance the funny.

)

coaw-ber? Conservative? My foot!

But O'Reilly can be pretty funny sometimes

..."If you don't like peanuts, you're evil!"

That was O'Reilly getting mad about Jimmy Carter's view on life

Elfhelm · 06-23-2006, 10:40 AM

I like political cartoons more than pundits. My favorite is Doonesbury, but Non Sequitor has become my number two. If I do listen to a pundit, it's pretty rare. Once in a while I put on Air America. But frankly I think there's too much finger-pointing going on on both sides.

edit: I guess the reason I don't like pundits is that there isn't one who says what I believe. I just find myself arguing with all of them. Maybe it's because I'm just contrary. But what I believe is closer to President Carter than to anyone else. And I feel like he's being ignored. His recommendations for putting the Democratic Party back on track are good ideas. Basically, there's no place for the Christian Liberal in America anymore, much less a BahÃ¡â€™Ã*, which is almost what I am. So I'm not represented. I think pundits are paid by the number of people who tune them in, not by the number who agree. And somehow I don't see someone saying turn the other cheek and love your enemy as upsetting enough listeners to make the phone lines light up.

GreyMouser · 06-24-2006, 04:16 AM

The problem with all these guys is that they need extremists of either side- get anyone calling in with a moderate, reasonable approach and see how quickly they get cut off- because it makes for boring radio.

***HOBBIT*** · 06-24-2006, 05:28 AM

Nurvingiel - you watch The Daily Show but don't know of The Colbert Report?! Blasphemy.

Stephen Colbert is the closest thing to a Conservative comedian :P

hectorberlioz · 07-01-2006, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreyMouser

The problem with all these guys is that they need extremists of either side- get anyone calling in with a moderate, reasonable approach and see how quickly they get cut off- because it makes for boring radio.

Thats certainly true with most radio pundits, but if you've ever heard O'Reilly for real, you'd know he's not just a mick-macker.

Lizra · 07-12-2006, 07:53 AM

I like Diane Rehms ( http://www.wamu.org/programs/dr/ ) because she doesn't try to spew hate...imo....the world is better off without polarizing media schtick on important issues.

durinsbane2244 · 07-12-2006, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insidious Rex

The Colbert Report!

amen, brother!

Insidious Rex · 07-12-2006, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizra

I like Diane Rehms ( http://www.wamu.org/programs/dr/ ) because she doesn't try to spew hate...imo....the world is better off without polarizing media schtick on important issues.

Shes a local treasure. And always civil. A breath of fresh air in the hot house that is news casting.

hectorberlioz · 07-13-2006, 11:44 AM

I've never heard of her before.

But I am upset that my local station, who carries O'Reilly live, doesn't replay him at 10:00 pm, which is when I have time to listen. Instead? They replay Miachael Savage, who is simply unlistenable...

06-19-2006, 08:58 PM	#1
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	Left, Right, Middle Pundits First of all I want to say that Radio is something I just don't like to listen to. But, I must confess, I'm a Bill O'Reilly listener. I disagree with him sometimes, even a lot, be it his conclusions, or how he came to certain conclusions. He may even be erring when it comes to being critical/uncritical of things such as polls. But I listen to him because he, unlike other talk show hosts, actually seems to want figure out solutions. Even though he gets "Reillied" (riled) up, he never resorts to insulting even (ok, except maybe George Soros) the lefties personally. So before you guys leap at my throat for listening to him, I'd like to know who anyone else listens to, if at all...well, actually, you can list your source for news too. btw, I also listen to NPR... __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

06-19-2006, 09:47 PM	#2
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06-20-2006, 06:57 AM	#3
*Jonathan* Entmoot Attorney-General, Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator ♎ Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 3,891	I sometimes watch The O'Reilly Factor just to see if he has any new controversal views to reveal. I don't like the man. FOX news is so slanted and The O'Reilly Factor contributes more than anything to FOX's mockery of journalism. That's what makes O'Reilly entertaining though __________________ An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and itâ€™s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry thatâ€™s ever been written. ☻

06-20-2006, 09:11 AM	#4
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06-20-2006, 12:16 PM	#6
*Jonathan* Entmoot Attorney-General, Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator ♎ Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 3,891	Actually, O'Reilly do remind me a little of Savage . Though you're right that Savage is a weirdo and O'Reilly is not. __________________ An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and itâ€™s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry thatâ€™s ever been written. ☻ Last edited by Jonathan : 06-20-2006 at 12:18 PM.

06-22-2006, 01:10 PM	#9
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06-23-2006, 10:40 AM	#12
Elfhelm Marshal of the Eastmark Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,412	I like political cartoons more than pundits. My favorite is Doonesbury, but Non Sequitor has become my number two. If I do listen to a pundit, it's pretty rare. Once in a while I put on Air America. But frankly I think there's too much finger-pointing going on on both sides. edit: I guess the reason I don't like pundits is that there isn't one who says what I believe. I just find myself arguing with all of them. Maybe it's because I'm just contrary. But what I believe is closer to President Carter than to anyone else. And I feel like he's being ignored. His recommendations for putting the Democratic Party back on track are good ideas. Basically, there's no place for the Christian Liberal in America anymore, much less a BahÃ¡â€™Ã, which is almost what I am. So I'm not represented. I think pundits are paid by the number of people who tune them in, not by the number who agree. And somehow I don't see someone saying turn the other cheek and love your enemy as upsetting enough listeners to make the phone lines light up. Last edited by Elfhelm : 06-23-2006 at 11:59 AM.*

06-24-2006, 04:16 AM	#13
GreyMouser Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 301	The problem with all these guys is that they need extremists of either side- get anyone calling in with a moderate, reasonable approach and see how quickly they get cut off- because it makes for boring radio.

06-24-2006, 05:28 AM	#14
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07-12-2006, 07:53 AM	#16
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	I like Diane Rehms ( http://www.wamu.org/programs/dr/ ) because she doesn't try to spew hate...imo....the world is better off without polarizing media schtick on important issues. __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

07-13-2006, 11:44 AM	#19
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	I've never heard of her before. But I am upset that my local station, who carries O'Reilly live, doesn't replay him at 10:00 pm, which is when I have time to listen. Instead? They replay Miachael Savage, who is simply unlistenable... __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

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