Entmoot
 


Go Back   Entmoot > J.R.R. Tolkien > The Silmarillion
FAQ Members List Calendar

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Old 05-14-2006, 11:37 AM   #22
Gordis
Lady of the Ulairi
 
Gordis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Minas Morgul
Posts: 2,783
Quote:
Originally Posted by CAB
Wow Gordis, that almost sounded like sarcasm. I know you didn’t mean it that way though. (2nd smiley)
No, no sarcasm. Sorry if it sounded that way.

I had a previous (and rather recent) experience with a discussion turning into philosophical/theological dispute. It was on another forum, but the topic was similar: 'were Melkor's actions a part of Eru's design?".
I learned that such debates never lead to an agreement, because there is Tolkien'e early POV, there is rather different later Tolkien's POV, there is Christian POV which some equal with Tolkien's later POV, and the personal POV's of all the people involved. The debate becomes a catastrophe, and leads to hurt feelings of some who really take this to heart.
I simply feel that I:
1. don't care enough to participate and
2. I am out of my depth here.

As simple as that.

Quote:
For me, this isn’t the real issue though. The problem I have is with giving absolute credence to a few quotes while (apparently) disregarding (or at least undervaluing) all the opposing evidence found in Tolkien’s works. I think we have to use Tolkien quotes + story + logic to come to any real (or if real is impossible, then “reasonable”) answers.
I fully agree. I think that letters can't be accepted as the absolute revelation. They were written to a given person, with their own beliefs, who often knew very little of Tolkien's world. Often the story retold in Letters is simplified, made more acceptable to the person in mind.
Gordis is offline   Reply With Quote
 



Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Were the Valar Shirking their Duty? Valandil The Silmarillion 90 06-02-2017 09:46 PM
Did Amandil ever make it to the Valar? Dúnedain Middle Earth 18 02-16-2011 04:29 PM
Jewels of the Valar Eärloth RPG Forum 118 11-26-2003 01:23 AM
For those seeking understanding of the higher ones ! Námo The Silmarillion 4 09-28-2002 05:31 PM
The nature of Prophecy in Middle-earth bmilder Lord of the Rings Books 23 06-16-2000 04:10 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(c) 1997-2019, The Tolkien Trail