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No, and it is not coincidental that Nicolas and his wife are genuine alchemists who partnered with Dumbledore and especially NOT a coincidence that they voluntarily lay down their lives by ending the Philosopher's Stone - a true mark of the meaning beyond merely transmutation of matter!
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I agree with you Inked, few things turn out to be coincidences in Harry Potter. That was a very meaningful action on their part too.
When did the Statute of Secrecy come in to effect? Did Flamel break the statute by publishing his book? Or did he do it as a Muggle?
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01-05-2005, 05:50 PM | #5 | |
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I don't think you understood (after rereading Nurvingiels' post) - It's not from a site of Harry Potter, or one of the books - it's the reality. He really was an alchemist. He was French, so his name should be said as 'Nicola' if you said 'Nicolas' till now. |
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01-05-2005, 06:32 PM | #6 |
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I had heard about him before the HP books, belive it or not.
I can't remeber where though. just remember the name from somewhere.
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01-05-2005, 09:40 PM | #7 |
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Nicholas Flamel is one of those famous 'freaky stuff' cases that just won't go away, even though there's never qute enough evidence to prove it.
In the 14th century he published a book claiming that he had created the philosophers stone. He and his wife later dissapeared, but have supposedly reappeared under several other names.
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01-05-2005, 11:04 PM | #8 |
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Radagast, my answer was within the corpus of the HP series. No confusion, just referencing the use to which I allege JKR put these characters in her book. It is interesting of course that there is a historical antecedent by the same name and with some of the same characteristics. But recognizing the usage is fun, and not coincidental. Also, if alchemy is a Christian variant under symbolic terms, then the true achievement of the book characters is their perfection of character, not their transmutation of metals!
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01-22-2005, 03:18 PM | #9 |
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there was this discovery channel special on once when the movies came out, it was something like 'The Real Story Behind harry Potter' or something like that...
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01-24-2005, 05:10 PM | #11 |
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Tolkien had unbelievable credability in his works, if we didn't know the almost complete history of the earth, it could be real *sigh* wish it was
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There are differences between that and the Bible too, if you're religious... It's more imaginative... there aren't that many miracles in the Bible... miracles or 'magic' of some kind. (the magic is always by God, too.) |
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01-25-2005, 11:07 AM | #14 |
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How about the verisimilitude was achieved in nearly unbelievable detail lending enormous credibility to the "secondary creation" of Tolkien.
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I meant it as in, awesome credability. my grammar isn't that good, leave me alone *sniff*
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02-11-2005, 11:44 AM | #17 |
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hey, you! Don't use so difficult words. I don't understand a bit. Oxymoron? versimilsked..verislemleid.. yeah, that Inked said. I have a dictonary, yes, but is there need to scorn us who don't have english as a mother language?
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02-13-2005, 09:39 PM | #18 |
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Ja, Pytt. Das es gut! Veri- de Latin veres (E. truth) + simil - de Latin similus (E. like or as) + -tude de Latin ? (E. state or being) = state or being of like or as the truth: verisimilitude. Comprehende, senor?
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Sehr gut
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