03-14-2004, 06:50 PM | #1 |
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Saddest Moment In Tolkien
What do you lot think is the saddest moment in Tolkien's Work?
I would say that either the death of Theoden or the descent into evil of Gollum would be the saddest in my opinion.
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A version of your second suggestion:
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03-15-2004, 01:11 AM | #3 |
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When Treebeard sees that many of his forest trees near Isengard have been cut down and burned.
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03-15-2004, 01:35 AM | #4 |
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The saddest moment for me is when Sam comes home and says "I'm back"
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cause it's over?
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03-15-2004, 02:07 AM | #6 |
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yeah
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You poor baby!
Oh yes...when the party tree gets cut down. Those tree bits really get me!
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03-15-2004, 02:19 AM | #8 |
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For me it is definitely when Frodo is finally back home in Bag End, and he realises that he can never go back to his life before the ring came to him. Oh, and the fact that Gollum never gets redeemed.
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03-15-2004, 04:27 AM | #9 |
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I know this is predictable… but the saddest moment for me is Gandalf's 'death' Every time I read it or watch it I cry, evne though I know full well he's not *really* dead…
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That is a really sad part Mrs. Maggot, it's very moving. The sad part is you know the Fellowship thinks he's dead, and he was such a good friend to all of them in different ways, especially Frodo, Aragorn, and Legolas.
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03-15-2004, 06:35 AM | #11 |
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The saddest moment in all of JRR Tolkien's work that I have read for me is in the Fall of Gondolin, when Echtilion (Sp?) takes Gothmog down in the fountain. I freakin cried, for Christ's sake. The whole Fall is so well written and sad, I guess its just the whole mood of the thing. Glorfindel taking the plunge with the Balrog is a sad one too, though. That damn Morgoth!
If you mean in Lord of the Rings alone, I would have to go with the death of Theoden. I like that guy, its too bad he died. On the lighter side, though, the funniest part is when Helm Hammerhand smites that fat dude outside of Edoras for allowing his pride to grow with his belly...heh heh..
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03-15-2004, 10:28 AM | #13 |
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This is a hard one. I'd say Beren's death. Or when Maglor and Maedhros have finally regained the Silmarils, only to discover how vain it was. Or when Túrin killed Beleg. Or the Aegnor/Andreth love story. Or ...
There are just too many to choose from. In LotR I think it must be the death of Boromir.
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03-15-2004, 02:37 PM | #14 |
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In LOTR's it would have to be when it ended. The very last sentence had me in floods. I just didn't want it to end.
Of course there is also the death of Smaug in The Hobbit - I loved that dragon!
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03-15-2004, 02:46 PM | #15 |
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In the Silmarillion there were many sad parts, mostly surrounding death. The death of Beleg was one of the saddest. Also the death of Morwen. How she died sitting by Hurin and telling him that she would go with the sun. The death of Finrod was also sad in that you watched this powerful, kind Elven King become stripped of everything, his crown, his dignity, his clothes, and even his life at the end, and then to die in the great tower that he himself had built. The death of Fingon was also very sad for me, in that he died in such a horrible way. The list goes on.
Yes Artanis, the Athrabeth, also one of the most beautiful, yet saddest works of Tolkien.
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I think the death of Finrod was the saddest moment. Every time you read it, you feel it again.
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03-15-2004, 07:32 PM | #17 |
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I never thought about the Simarillion. I found the deaths (there are so many arghh) of Fingolfin and Finrod to be very depressing.
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03-16-2004, 08:54 AM | #19 |
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I never really thought the death of Fingolfin was too sad. I always figured that would be a good way to go, fighting against the greatest enemy in Arda, and wounding him many times before you are crushed by his hammer. I would have mourned his passing, but not his death, it was a heroic death fitting a High King of the Eldar. I would think that seeing your king, a mere elf of Middle-earth, battle the greatest Vala ever would be a hell of a thing, even if he did die, which I would expect anyway. He got some hits in, and Morgoth never forgot the pain of them.
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The more I think about it, 5 of the top 10 probably come from the story of Turin Turrambar.
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