Cool respectful believer/non believer quotes

afro-elf · 02-05-2003, 11:11 PM

RULES

1. THIS IS NOT TO BE ANTAGONIST

2. Just post a quote from some of different belief system that you think is cool or respect etc

3. Can be from any source

4) state why you what you disbelieve but like about it

I will start
Dream Theater
Images & Words (1992)
Learning To Live

There was no time for pain
No energy for anger
The sightlessness of hatred slips away
Walking through winter streets alone
He stops and takes a breath
With confidence and self control

I look at the world and see no understanding
I'm waiting to find some sense of strength
I'm begging you from the bottom of my heart to show some understanding

I need to live life
Like some people never will
So find me kindness
Find me beauty
Find me truth
When temptation brings me to my knees
And I lay here drained on stength
Show me kindness
Show me beauty
Show me truth

The ways that your heart sounds makes all the difference
It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel
The way that your heart beats makes all the difference
In learning to live
Here before me is my soul
I'm learning to live
I won't give up
Till I've no more to give

Listening to the city
Whispering its violence
I set out watching from above
The 90's bring new questions
New solutions to be found
I fell in love to be let down

Once again we dance in the crowd
At times a step away
From a common fear that's all spread out
It won't listen to what you say
Once you're touched and you stand alone
To face the bitter fight
Once I reached for love
And now I reach for life

Another chance to lift my life
Free the sensation in my heart
To ride the wings of dreams into changing horizons
It brings inner peace within my mind,
As I'm lifted from where I've split my life
I hear an innocnet voice
I hear kindness, beauty and truth

The way your heart sounds makes all the difference
It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel
The way your heart beats makes all the difference
In learning to live
Spread before you is your soul
So forever hold the dreams within our hearts
Through nature's inflexible grace

I do not believe in the soul or " nature's inflexible grace"
Nonetheless I think it is a beautiful song

afro-elf · 02-09-2003, 12:35 AM

From Time Requiem

Have mercy, Lord on me, regard my bitter wiping
Your forgiveness has assured me
Through you Son's despair and pain

I do not deny my guilt
But your mercy, if you will
Far exceeced my transgression
Of which I must must make confession

Well, I am not Christian. But, I like the words

Dúnedain · 02-09-2003, 12:43 AM

So it has to be a quote from a belief genre? Or can it vary further into quotes that have been with you for many years for inspiration or things of the like?

Insidious Rex · 02-09-2003, 12:57 AM

Intriguing. Well I admire countless quotes from basically all the major religions and from many philosophies. And Im agnostic so I guess I could choose from any of them. But Ill do something interesting here. Ill choose a quote from an atheist:

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god then you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
Stephen Roberts

Roberts said this quote when talking to a christian but it could of course apply to any member of any of the major religions. Its a great quote because Ive never met anyone of any religion who could get around its logic. It really makes you think about things.

afro-elf · 02-09-2003, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dúnedain
So it has to be a quote from a belief genre? Or can it vary further into quotes that have been with you for many years for inspiration or things of the like?

Just as long as there is SOME of different POV you have with it and state what the differnce is.

Huan · 02-09-2003, 02:07 AM

From Sophocles' Women of Trachis:
You have lately seen terrible deaths, and many sufferings unprecedented, and none of these things is not Zeus.

Wayfarer · 02-09-2003, 05:27 AM

"You ask my why, if I respect Christ so much, do I not become a Christian? Should I ever meet a christian who follows christ, I may consider it."
"You Christians so love your Christ, why are you so unlike him?"
Mahatma Mohandas Ghandi, also credited with saying "if it weren't for Christians, I'd be a Christian."

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free"
Johann Wolfgang Van Goethe

"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
Soren Kierkegaard

"You can only find truth with logic if you have already found truth without it."
G.K. Chesterfield

"Wars not make one great"
"Luminous beings are we... not this crude matter."
"So certain are you. Always with you it cannot be doe"
Yoda.

Coney · 02-09-2003, 02:24 PM

"Never rub another mans rhubarb"
-Joker

Rána Eressëa · 02-09-2003, 02:40 PM

Let me enlighten you
This is the way I pray:

Living just isn't hard enough
Burn me alive inside
Living my life's not hard enough
Take everything away

--Disturbed, Prayer

I love the lyrics and the song, though I don't pray.

I will be waiting
With a song in my soul
A fortunate weakling
Which I have foretold

He raises his arms tied
Above the abyss
Singing his sweet song
His melody opens up the sun

Freedom raid
God has come
The rivers of blood
Pushed back in my veins

She sleeps with her eyes closed
To dream of the past
Her mind has gone blind now
While the memory closes up the sun

Freedom rain
God has come
The rivers of blood
Pushed back in my veins

I will be waiting
With a song in my soul
A fortunate weakling
Which I have foretold

--Linkin Park, Soul Song

I don't believe in God (or souls in the sense that religious people do), but I really enjoy listening to this song. Even singing along with it.

It's very beautiful.

Wayfarer · 02-10-2003, 11:25 PM

"If the radiance of a thousand suns
Were to burst at once into the sky
That would be like the splendor of the Mighty one"
Hindu, Bhagavad Gita

Cirdan · 02-11-2003, 01:06 AM

"Hell is like setting a hundred Christmas Trees on fire and jumping right in the middle." - George Carlin

Evenstar1400 · 02-11-2003, 10:20 PM

"So am I still waiting for this world to stop hating"
~SUM41 (in one of their songs)

"I'm not afraid of tomorrow. I'm only scared of myself"
~dunno where its from

02-05-2003, 11:11 PM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Cool respectful believer/non believer quotes RULES 1. THIS IS NOT TO BE ANTAGONIST 2. Just post a quote from some of different belief system that you think is cool or respect etc 3. Can be from any source 4) state why you what you disbelieve but like about it I will start Dream Theater Images & Words (1992) Learning To Live There was no time for pain No energy for anger The sightlessness of hatred slips away Walking through winter streets alone He stops and takes a breath With confidence and self control I look at the world and see no understanding I'm waiting to find some sense of strength I'm begging you from the bottom of my heart to show some understanding I need to live life Like some people never will So find me kindness Find me beauty Find me truth When temptation brings me to my knees And I lay here drained on stength Show me kindness Show me beauty Show me truth The ways that your heart sounds makes all the difference It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel The way that your heart beats makes all the difference In learning to live Here before me is my soul I'm learning to live I won't give up Till I've no more to give Listening to the city Whispering its violence I set out watching from above The 90's bring new questions New solutions to be found I fell in love to be let down Once again we dance in the crowd At times a step away From a common fear that's all spread out It won't listen to what you say Once you're touched and you stand alone To face the bitter fight Once I reached for love And now I reach for life Another chance to lift my life Free the sensation in my heart To ride the wings of dreams into changing horizons It brings inner peace within my mind, As I'm lifted from where I've split my life I hear an innocnet voice I hear kindness, beauty and truth The way your heart sounds makes all the difference It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel The way your heart beats makes all the difference In learning to live Spread before you is your soul So forever hold the dreams within our hearts Through nature's inflexible grace I do not believe in the soul or " nature's inflexible grace" Nonetheless I think it is a beautiful song __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

02-09-2003, 12:35 AM	#2
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	From Time Requiem Have mercy, Lord on me, regard my bitter wiping Your forgiveness has assured me Through you Son's despair and pain I do not deny my guilt But your mercy, if you will Far exceeced my transgression Of which I must must make confession Well, I am not Christian. But, I like the words __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

02-09-2003, 12:43 AM	#3
Dúnedain High King of Númenórë Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Númenórë <--United States of America Posts: 1,947	So it has to be a quote from a belief genre? Or can it vary further into quotes that have been with you for many years for inspiration or things of the like? __________________ 'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen

02-09-2003, 12:57 AM	#4
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	Intriguing. Well I admire countless quotes from basically all the major religions and from many philosophies. And Im agnostic so I guess I could choose from any of them. But Ill do something interesting here. Ill choose a quote from an atheist: "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god then you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts Roberts said this quote when talking to a christian but it could of course apply to any member of any of the major religions. Its a great quote because Ive never met anyone of any religion who could get around its logic. It really makes you think about things. __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

02-09-2003, 05:27 AM	#7
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	"You ask my why, if I respect Christ so much, do I not become a Christian? Should I ever meet a christian who follows christ, I may consider it." "You Christians so love your Christ, why are you so unlike him?" Mahatma Mohandas Ghandi, also credited with saying "if it weren't for Christians, I'd be a Christian." "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free" Johann Wolfgang Van Goethe "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." Soren Kierkegaard "You can only find truth with logic if you have already found truth without it." G.K. Chesterfield "Wars not make one great" "Luminous beings are we... not this crude matter." "So certain are you. Always with you it cannot be doe" Yoda. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

02-09-2003, 02:07 AM	#6
Huan Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: 274	From Sophocles' Women of Trachis: You have lately seen terrible deaths, and many sufferings unprecedented, and none of these things is not Zeus.

02-09-2003, 02:24 PM	#8
Coney The Buddy Rabbit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Trapped in the headlights.. Posts: 3,372	"Never rub another mans rhubarb" -Joker __________________ Blessed are the cracked, they let the light in Beatallica

02-09-2003, 02:40 PM	#9
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	Let me enlighten you This is the way I pray: Living just isn't hard enough Burn me alive inside Living my life's not hard enough Take everything away --Disturbed, Prayer I love the lyrics and the song, though I don't pray. I will be waiting With a song in my soul A fortunate weakling Which I have foretold He raises his arms tied Above the abyss Singing his sweet song His melody opens up the sun Freedom raid God has come The rivers of blood Pushed back in my veins She sleeps with her eyes closed To dream of the past Her mind has gone blind now While the memory closes up the sun Freedom rain God has come The rivers of blood Pushed back in my veins I will be waiting With a song in my soul A fortunate weakling Which I have foretold --Linkin Park, Soul Song I don't believe in God (or souls in the sense that religious people do), but I really enjoy listening to this song. Even singing along with it. It's very beautiful. Last edited by Rána Eressëa : 02-11-2003 at 02:47 PM.

02-10-2003, 11:25 PM	#10
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	"If the radiance of a thousand suns Were to burst at once into the sky That would be like the splendor of the Mighty one" Hindu, Bhagavad Gita __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

02-11-2003, 01:06 AM	#11
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	"Hell is like setting a hundred Christmas Trees on fire and jumping right in the middle." - George Carlin __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

02-11-2003, 10:20 PM	#12
Evenstar1400 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In the inner depths of my lair. Posts: 421	"So am I still waiting for this world to stop hating" ~SUM41 (in one of their songs) "I'm not afraid of tomorrow. I'm only scared of myself" ~dunno where its from __________________ Treebeard: Hmm, you look like hobbits, smell like hobbits, feel like hobbits and sound like hobbits. You must be orcs!