06-30-2003, 09:59 PM | #1 |
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Whay Sirus
Okay here's a question that has been bugging me. Why did she kill off Sirus? He was in what, 3 books? This is just sooooo annoying. Why not someone else?
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06-30-2003, 10:19 PM | #2 |
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yea im pissed he left. but im sure hell be back it would be wierd to lewave outs harry sort of best friend
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06-30-2003, 10:42 PM | #3 |
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I want him to be back. But it seems, whatever I hope for never happens, so maybe I should just wish he wont come back and them he will!
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i think this is part of JKR crazy plan. In the end of book 7, the same thing will happen as in book 4, but then sirius will ome out and kill Voldemort, and all the death eaters. (just a guess)
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07-01-2003, 12:31 AM | #5 |
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Gollumsome#s, that would be a horrible ending and highly unlikely.
Why not kill Sirius? Get over it, he wasn't that great of a character in the first place Seriously, I liked him enough but sometimes he was just annoying. She did not really kill off any major character;we can do without him.
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07-01-2003, 12:50 AM | #7 |
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"that was supposed to sarcasim. I gues i should of put that in my post. *makes mental note*"
Maybe you don't know what sarcasm is? Oh well. Or maybe it was clear and made sense in your mind, but sarcasm does not always convery well on computers. Your prediction made little sense either way. Makes mental note? I care not if you add that you were being sarcastic, which I doubt you were (or if you were, you messed up horribly imo), or not. If you are going to change it, just change it. Don't talk about changing. There is an edit button for crying out loud.
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im thinking you dislike gollum9630 very much
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07-01-2003, 04:57 AM | #9 |
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Hmmm...
JKR moves in mysterious ways.
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07-01-2003, 11:32 AM | #10 |
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She said she had to kill someone, and there wouldn't be much point in killing off a character Harry/the reader didn't care about, would there? Also, this is a war. People die in wars.
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07-01-2003, 03:49 PM | #11 | |
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Yeah, but Sirius was stupid. That's why he died.
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07-03-2003, 11:42 AM | #12 |
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my friend pointed out to me that sirius DIDNT DIE when the jet of light hit him, he was merely stunned. his expression changed from laughter to shock, so therefore he wasnt dead. BUT then he fell through the veil, so he.... i dunno.... went to the place where dead wizards go. so the question really is.... will he return? (very unlikely, but i hope that is the case..... must stop contridicting myself...)
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Remember Dumbledore mentioning that it was the Death Chamber where the others were left when he was talking to Fudge after Voldy and Bella escaped from him? Remember that Harry and the others were just about mesmerized with that waving veil in the middle of the Death Chamber where Sirius fell through? What I'm trying to say is that, perhaps the chamber is a place of execution where souls are beckoned from their bodies. It seems like a humane way to die and Sirius just left the world serenely. Just a thought...
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07-03-2003, 01:03 PM | #14 |
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Hmmm....a very good thought. But I don't really think Sirius is coming back, I mean if he did then why couldn't Harry's parents come back? But I think that there is some significance to the mirrior that Sirius gave Harry. I've never heard (or rather read) anyone else mention the mirrior I geuss it was just to much of a minor point in the book but still even if Sirius didn't have the mirrior (which i think he did, but Sirius was to busy at that momment to notice that Harry's head had poped up in the mirrior) Harry could give the other one to Ron and then they could get into more trouble.
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First of all, what is a mirrior? Do you mean mirror? And second you don't make any sense - sorry. Also - we know nothing about the veil except it has something to do vaguely with death. From what we know - what is beyond that veil is death. He is stunned before he falls into it - but once he passes that veil - he is dead, gone - as far as we know anway. What are you talking about here: " I geuss it was just to much of a minor point in the book but still even if Sirius didn't have the mirrior (which i think he did, but Sirius was to busy at that momment to notice that Harry's head had poped up in the mirrior) Harry could give the other one to Ron and then they could get into more trouble." What????? Sirius is DEAD - we don't know anything about the wizarding afterlife yet - but he is DEAD. He probably can't look through any mirror that connects to the living - and even if he could, he could not - and does not - respond. How in the world could Harry give the other 'mirrior' to Ron???? We don't know where the other one is - maybe serious had it when he died and thus, it is GONE FOR GOOD - or it is in that awful house somewhere with Kreacher. But it doesn't matter really because Harry SMASHED HIS. Of course I guess they could always repair it, but still.
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10-03-2003, 08:59 PM | #16 |
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As much as I want Sirius to come back, I'd rather they not 'mess' with his death. *sigh*
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10-12-2003, 08:39 PM | #17 |
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Waht I was getting at was that Sirus was just to busy being dead to notice that Harry was talking to him in the mirror.
Maybe he could use it maybe he can't we jsut don't know. If he didn't have the mirrior then Harry would probably find it and give it to Ron. Once he accepted the fact that Sirus was gone this would be easier to do. I hope taht's clearer.
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10-17-2003, 11:23 PM | #18 |
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Sirius is dead.
Both Lupin and Nearly Headless Nick confirmed it. However, I would like to offer an alternate theory - that perhaps his death was not as random as it seems. For those of you familiar with the novel Les Miserables by Victor Hugo, the central character, Jean Valjean, is a convict who has been freed from prison after serving nineteen years for committing a menial crime. He breaks his parole, and is forced back on the run, slipping into despair and debauchery until he saves the child of a woman who dies due to mistakes that he himself made (unwittingly) in the past. It is the love of this child, and Valjean's love towards her, that leads Valjean on the path from crime to redemption, from evil to Righteousness, and eventually wins him his salvation, when he makes the ultimate sacrifice for this child's happiness. I think perhaps JK Rowling is doing a similar thing with Sirius. In watching out for Harry, Sirius is paying the weregild owed to James and Lily for his part in their betrayal or death. While not directly responsible, I believe that he feels guilt for being the one to suggest the change of Secret Keepers to Peter, the move that directly lead to the Potter's death. It is only by making a sacrifice of equal value that Sirius can redeem himself in his own eyes. It is through his death in an attempt to save Harry's life that Sirius finds salvation from his guilt, and freedom from the law that would always have hounded him. Sirius' death, therefore, may not be tragic, but redemptive.
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10-24-2003, 08:48 PM | #20 |
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sirius was my favorite character and at first when i read his death scene i thought "oh no" but then i realized that even though sirius is dead he might still be an important character and, like harry's parents be mentioned often. Even more so cause harry knew him better, but for those of you that believe that sirius might come back, i didagree because as nick and lupin said he is GONE. though it is sad i do not believe he will be back.
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