03-12-2007, 07:29 PM | #1 |
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03-12-2007, 07:52 PM | #2 |
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I saw this last night. It was sooooooo AWESOME!!!
BTW, Katt love the comic. "You're lucky only Spartan women can give birth to real men"
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03-14-2007, 02:27 AM | #3 | |
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I just saw "300" today. Honestly, I would have preferred a film version of Larry Pressman's "Gates of Fire" over Frank Miller. HOWEVER: I really enjoyed it. The color palette was really, really interesting, and a lot of the action was well done. The movie didn't slow down, and I liked the boob shots and the sensuous writhing of the oracle (oh, maybe that's what the thread starter was on about). HOWEVER: Really, really stupid "monsters", and Farmir fighting orcs again was a tad cliche. The use of the Spartan phalanx should have remained as the fighting style for all the battles, and the face-to-face meetings of Leonidas and Xerxes were really not in the realm of believability. I know, I know, it's a representation fo the graphic novel. To me, the Pressman book would have been far, far more watchable, as it held closer to the historical battle and the events leading up to it. I am glad thay didn't have the Spartans prancing about, buggering each other (the bad rep Sparta got re: homosexuality was more an effect of Athenian historians pegging them with the rap, as the Romans did to all Grekk culture hundreds of years later). The movie focused on the true heroism of the Spartan holding action at Thermopylae, which is the most important thing about the entire battle. All in all, this is one heck of a ripping good film, and I walked out of the theater glad that I had seen it. It is original, imaginative, and such a far better product than Hollywood has vomited forth in theaters recently. No belly button gazing, metrosexual male wingeing over some wraithlike overbearing semifrigid chick, no onerous "message" trying to proselytize the new morality, it is a throwback to earlier films that just entertained. It's just a good moviegoing experience, and I highly recommend the movie.
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I am so, so eager to see this new film; I have got to check this out. 300 has gone alomost instantly through the roof in the brief time the film's been released in theatres atround the world; I just read in the LATimes this morning that they premiered 300 in actual Sparta, the city of Sparta in Greece. Which is a big deal, 'cause almost always the big films are premiered either in Hollywood or New York, never places like "Sparta." That'd be like premiering Titanic in Liverpool, or premiering The Return of the King in, I dunno, freakin' Gondor, right? or premiering The Departed in Boston, Mass rather than in WSestwood Village or at Mann's Chinese, here in my town. Know what I mean? Very cool they opened in actual Sparta. I wanna see the naked fighting-men. Oh, come to Mama, come to Mama!! Dear god I wanna see this film...
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Katt! You read that comic too! Awesome!
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03-14-2007, 03:00 PM | #6 |
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Near naked statuesque Greeks fighting orc like Persians who have no soul... When it comes to sticking to the graphic novel it does very well. When to actual reality its way off. Anyone ever remember that it wasn't just the Spartans there?
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03-14-2007, 03:06 PM | #7 |
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There were other free Greeks there, but they were wimps in the movie.
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03-14-2007, 04:43 PM | #8 |
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Heheh, of course they were, they were GAY! Duh.
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03-14-2007, 05:17 PM | #9 |
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No comment!
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03-14-2007, 05:25 PM | #10 |
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Hehehe....
Yeah, lets just leave it there.
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03-14-2007, 05:39 PM | #11 |
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... might be inconvienient in the morning tho' ...
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03-14-2007, 06:07 PM | #12 | |
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03-14-2007, 07:16 PM | #13 | |
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Naw, they were bi.
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03-14-2007, 07:23 PM | #14 |
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No, they were TRIsexual. They will TRY anything!
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03-14-2007, 07:38 PM | #15 |
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The reason I loved this movie is because the Spartans not only kicked ass but they were willing to give their lives to protect all they loved (Sparta). You gotta give it to them, they knew they were going to die when they left ("All have sons to carry on their name, Sire"). These men were the definion of "Hero"
Of course they weren't that bad to look at either
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03-15-2007, 05:45 PM | #16 |
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Although there have been attempts to draw analogies from 300 to current political situations, I did read that Miller had no desire to make such analogies.
Just like Tolkien, but of course, that hasn't stopped some commentators (not here, but elsewhere) from trying to draw those comparisons.
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03-20-2007, 09:35 AM | #17 |
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Just watched it last night and it was pretty good. It had some good carnage. The oracle part was hot until the leper licked her. The slow down of the battles was awesome. The Immortals were cool looking and I loved the scene where the rain was beating on Leonidas' sheild. All in all, it was worth the 8 bucks and another viewing.
I don't know why people insist on wanting all their movies to have historical accuracy. These kind of films aren't ment to educate, they're made to entertain and I think it did it's job. If I wanted to learn something from a movie I'd watch PBS. Anywho, if you haven't seen it yet, go watch it. You won't be disapointed.
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03-20-2007, 12:02 PM | #18 |
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So I shouldn't watch it, right?
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Depends. If you want a history lesson, no. If you want to see some blood, awesome boobage, and some cool battles, then yes.
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