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01-29-2003, 05:37 PM | #101 |
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Both evil and good are born into a person; children don't have to be taught to to lie, or to take another child's toy away from them. Evil comes naturally to people; youth doesn't necessarily mean your free of evil.
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01-29-2003, 05:42 PM | #102 | |
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Harry should be forced to battle Saruman Gandalf should be forced to battle Voldemort. If Gandalf is killed then Harry is the better wizard. If Harry id killed, then Harry is still the better wizard... I am not bias... I don;t care what you say!
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01-29-2003, 05:43 PM | #103 |
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Huh? Are you replying to my post? Because I wasn't even addressing that subject. Harry and Gandalf are not evil because that's how their characters are written. This is about fantasy fiction writing, not human nature.
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01-29-2003, 05:46 PM | #104 | |
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01-29-2003, 05:50 PM | #105 | |
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01-29-2003, 06:04 PM | #106 | |
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Exactly; youth doesn't necessarily mean someone is pure and innocent, nor does it mean they are necessarily spoiled brats.
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Hmm...Where do Good Guys lose...I know someone who's writing a fantasy series which has a very tragic end, where evil basically wins...That's all I can think of. But you're right, the Good Guys have a tendency to win. To paraphrase Dark Helmet, "Because Evil is dumb." Ok, maybe that wasn't exactly what he said...
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01-29-2003, 07:22 PM | #107 |
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Well... If you took Gandalf and Harry Potter out of the story books and brought them to life and they kept all of their charecteristics and their backgrounds and histpries are the same, except for their tendency to win... who do you think would win fighting against each others enemy.
HP verses Saruman Gandalf verses Voldemort
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01-29-2003, 07:26 PM | #108 | |
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01-29-2003, 07:28 PM | #109 |
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Saruman=Maia. Saruman>Harry
Gandalf=Maia. Gandalf>Voldemort
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01-29-2003, 07:48 PM | #110 | |
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01-29-2003, 07:54 PM | #111 |
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Nope, fraid not. (Well, maybe not fraid...)
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01-30-2003, 09:07 AM | #112 |
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I think Harry could beat Saruman. He beat Voldemort, after all. And Gandalf would definitely chew Voldy to pulp . . . so they'd both still be equal.
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01-30-2003, 01:31 PM | #113 |
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But Voldemort is a human; Saruman is a Maia, and the most powerful of the Wizards.
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01-31-2003, 01:26 PM | #114 | |
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01-31-2003, 09:23 PM | #115 |
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Pffffffft. Maiar don't live here, silly! They live in Valinor, which is no longer attainable through the world. Anyway, Maiar are supernatural beings, and thus of course better at using supernatural power.
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01-31-2003, 11:45 PM | #116 | |
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01-31-2003, 11:48 PM | #117 |
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Magic and supernatural power are the same thing.
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01-31-2003, 11:48 PM | #118 |
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And Gandalf is stronger magically than Harry Potter. End of story.
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01-31-2003, 11:57 PM | #119 | |
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su·per·nat·u·ral adj 1.relating or attributed to phenomena that cannot be explained by natural laws 2.relating or attributed to a deity 3.relating or attributed to magic or the occult mag·ic n 1.conjuring tricks and illusions that make apparently impossible things seem to happen, usually performed as entertainment 2.a special, mysterious, or inexplicable quality, talent, or skill They are similar, but definetly no the same!
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02-01-2003, 12:12 AM | #120 |
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Supernatural (2) and Magic (1) and do not apply in this situation.
Supernatural (1) can describe Magic (2) Supernatural (3) is relates to Magic Supernatural and Magical are the same.
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