The Pentagrid Net Discussion - Page 6

Arat-Falathion · 04-10-2002, 12:03 PM

HantalÃ« malonya. Tel en

- Arat-BÃ*renath, high-elf, speaker of the elven tongue: Quenya..

***Tessar*** · 04-10-2002, 01:08 PM

It boggles the mind...

Irid al'Menie · 04-10-2002, 03:47 PM

I'm with you tessar

Lief Erikson · 04-11-2002, 12:23 AM

Arat-Falathion, that's the real elvish language isn't it?

Irid al'Menie · 04-11-2002, 05:06 AM

Lief: there are several 'real' elvish tongues tolkien invented. The main two are quenya and sindarin. What arat said is quenya, but that's all i know... I wouldn't have a clue what it means...

Arat-Falathion · 04-11-2002, 05:13 AM

Life, ai! made by Tolkien himself... the ancient tongue of the elves, spoken in Valinor... the ones who traveled to middle earth, or Beleriand at that time developed their language further. Sindarin is the most popular language of these (Sindarin is what Arwen and Aragorn speak to each other in the movie, but when Gandalf talk to the dwelf lord, he sais: "Ando Eldarinwa a lasta quettanya, Fenda Casarinwa!" which is quenya and means: "Elvish gate, listen to my word, dwarvish doorthreshold". And then when that don't work, he sais "mellon" which means friend, but is Sindarin :P Todays elvish-tongue lesson..

- Falathion

Arat-Falathion · 04-11-2002, 05:17 AM

I could post some links to pages for which to learn these languages::

http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/

http://hem.passagen.se/benninge/quenya-english.html

http://www.dragons-inn.org/Ifreann/eng_elf.html

http://www.dragons-inn.org/Ifreann/elf_eng.html

These are only for starters.. the last 3 links are only corpus and translations.. you should check out the first link to get all the rules and so on for the language.. and there are several different Tolkien languages to learn on that first link...

- Falathion

Arat-Falathion · 04-11-2002, 01:24 PM

Sylthre: oh.. so the horse is dead :P lol

I'll change my post when I get back laters..

Arat-Falathion · 04-12-2002, 08:12 AM

Mathron: a star shines upon our meeting.. but it is day

I'll give my post here as soon as I have time..!!

- Falathion

***Tessar*** · 04-12-2002, 08:44 AM

It's an elvish greeting.

I don't think it needs to be night, also, the stars shine day AND night, we just don't see them during the day!

Irid al'Menie · 04-12-2002, 09:17 AM

Oh yes, we do, the sun is a star too, just a star that stands so close to us in the universe, we only see her during the day...

Mathron · 04-12-2002, 09:56 AM

I believe the greeting is basically "A star shines at the hour of our meeting" - meaning, I suppose, that our meeting is blessed in some way. I do not think it requires it to be night out.

Arat-Falathion · 04-13-2002, 05:03 AM

Agreed

Selwythe · 04-13-2002, 12:25 PM

Sigh, good thing my character is a Man. I don't understand all these immortal stuff?

Actually I read through the Sindarin article on Ardalambion some time back and all I learnt was mutations which were pretty useless considering how I couldn't structure any words.

Arat-Falathion · 04-13-2002, 12:34 PM

yeh, you need to understand the gramma in order to be able to put words together... it is pretty much like finnish structur on sentenses.. which makes no sense.. it is a difficult language to learn, and I am by no means an expert

- Falathion

Arat-Falathion · 04-17-2002, 12:14 PM

Did I mess up everything with my last post??

I miss some peoples posting!! Come on!

Mathron: If I understood your last post correct... the dead people we found by the cottage was already burried. It was the wife of Arat-LumÃ«nion, Arat-BÃ*renath's brother... The cottage belongs to LumÃ«nion, though he is not there, we don't know where he is.. The creature that BÃ*renath followed through the forrest was the Uruk-Hai played by Selwythe...

hope that makes everything clear

- Falathion

Irid al'Menie · 04-17-2002, 02:20 PM

hey, i just want to say something. If i say something about a necklace or so, irid wore that necklace a long time, but in another rpg she just found it (if that makes sense). (that other rpg is in the second era). There are some other things in the future that will have happened in her past that i haven't talked about yet. Just so you know

Mathron · 04-19-2002, 09:30 AM

Selwythe - my apologies for Harnauro's actions. But I'm pretty sure had I let you continue unhindered, Alfwine would be a dead character. It has been made clear the woods are a dangerous place - characters can get away with poking their heads in once, but you really would have no way to reasonably have Alfwine survive without severely altering some of the plot.

Irid al'Menie · 04-22-2002, 11:31 AM

I'm sorry, I couldn't stay. I don't have enough time... Oh well, i'll hear what happens from Lief i guess

Selwythe · 04-27-2002, 02:51 PM

I know and wasn't intending for him to really enter as before, with unexpected events. My mind is currently dead with that unconsciousness. Hope you can continue from there.

04-10-2002, 12:03 PM	#101
Arat-Falathion A'mael Dalharen Eldarele Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 707	HantalÃ« malonya. Tel en - Arat-BÃ*renath, high-elf, speaker of the elven tongue: Quenya.. __________________ Atharon, where heroes are born. A constantly evolving forum rpg created by Lief Erikson, Falathion and its players.

04-10-2002, 03:47 PM	#103
Irid al'Menie Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Middle-Earth Posts: 227	I'm with you tessar __________________ And they danced until the world consisted of shadowy flashes and each other's faces, so close...

04-11-2002, 05:06 AM	#105
Irid al'Menie Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Middle-Earth Posts: 227	Lief: there are several 'real' elvish tongues tolkien invented. The main two are quenya and sindarin. What arat said is quenya, but that's all i know... I wouldn't have a clue what it means... __________________ And they danced until the world consisted of shadowy flashes and each other's faces, so close...

04-11-2002, 05:13 AM	#106
Arat-Falathion A'mael Dalharen Eldarele Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 707	Life, ai! made by Tolkien himself... the ancient tongue of the elves, spoken in Valinor... the ones who traveled to middle earth, or Beleriand at that time developed their language further. Sindarin is the most popular language of these (Sindarin is what Arwen and Aragorn speak to each other in the movie, but when Gandalf talk to the dwelf lord, he sais: "Ando Eldarinwa a lasta quettanya, Fenda Casarinwa!" which is quenya and means: "Elvish gate, listen to my word, dwarvish doorthreshold". And then when that don't work, he sais "mellon" which means friend, but is Sindarin :P Todays elvish-tongue lesson.. - Falathion __________________ Atharon, where heroes are born. A constantly evolving forum rpg created by Lief Erikson, Falathion and its players.

04-11-2002, 05:17 AM	#107
Arat-Falathion A'mael Dalharen Eldarele Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 707	I could post some links to pages for which to learn these languages:: http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/ http://hem.passagen.se/benninge/quenya-english.html http://www.dragons-inn.org/Ifreann/eng_elf.html http://www.dragons-inn.org/Ifreann/elf_eng.html These are only for starters.. the last 3 links are only corpus and translations.. you should check out the first link to get all the rules and so on for the language.. and there are several different Tolkien languages to learn on that first link... - Falathion __________________ Atharon, where heroes are born. A constantly evolving forum rpg created by Lief Erikson, Falathion and its players.

04-10-2002, 01:08 PM	#102
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	It boggles the mind...

04-11-2002, 12:23 AM	#104
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	Arat-Falathion, that's the real elvish language isn't it?

04-11-2002, 01:24 PM	#108
Arat-Falathion A'mael Dalharen Eldarele Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 707	Sylthre: oh.. so the horse is dead :P lol I'll change my post when I get back laters.. __________________ Atharon, where heroes are born. A constantly evolving forum rpg created by Lief Erikson, Falathion and its players.

04-12-2002, 08:12 AM	#109
Arat-Falathion A'mael Dalharen Eldarele Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 707	Mathron: a star shines upon our meeting.. but it is day I'll give my post here as soon as I have time..!! - Falathion __________________ Atharon, where heroes are born. A constantly evolving forum rpg created by Lief Erikson, Falathion and its players.

04-12-2002, 08:44 AM	#110
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	It's an elvish greeting. I don't think it needs to be night, also, the stars shine day AND night, we just don't see them during the day!

04-12-2002, 09:17 AM	#111
Irid al'Menie Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Middle-Earth Posts: 227	Oh yes, we do, the sun is a star too, just a star that stands so close to us in the universe, we only see her during the day... __________________ And they danced until the world consisted of shadowy flashes and each other's faces, so close...

04-12-2002, 09:56 AM	#112
Mathron Hobbit-Huorn RPG Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 695	I believe the greeting is basically "A star shines at the hour of our meeting" - meaning, I suppose, that our meeting is blessed in some way. I do not think it requires it to be night out. __________________ Through Truth, Power.

04-13-2002, 05:03 AM	#113
Arat-Falathion A'mael Dalharen Eldarele Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 707	Agreed __________________ Atharon, where heroes are born. A constantly evolving forum rpg created by Lief Erikson, Falathion and its players.

04-13-2002, 12:25 PM	#114
Selwythe Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 221	Sigh, good thing my character is a Man. I don't understand all these immortal stuff? Actually I read through the Sindarin article on Ardalambion some time back and all I learnt was mutations which were pretty useless considering how I couldn't structure any words. __________________ If I say you have a beautiful body, will you hold it against me?

04-13-2002, 12:34 PM	#115
Arat-Falathion A'mael Dalharen Eldarele Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 707	yeh, you need to understand the gramma in order to be able to put words together... it is pretty much like finnish structur on sentenses.. which makes no sense.. it is a difficult language to learn, and I am by no means an expert - Falathion __________________ Atharon, where heroes are born. A constantly evolving forum rpg created by Lief Erikson, Falathion and its players.

04-17-2002, 12:14 PM	#116
Arat-Falathion A'mael Dalharen Eldarele Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 707	Did I mess up everything with my last post?? I miss some peoples posting!! Come on! Mathron: If I understood your last post correct... the dead people we found by the cottage was already burried. It was the wife of Arat-LumÃ«nion, Arat-BÃrenath's brother... The cottage belongs to LumÃ«nion, though he is not there, we don't know where he is.. The creature that BÃrenath followed through the forrest was the Uruk-Hai played by Selwythe... hope that makes everything clear - Falathion __________________ Atharon, where heroes are born. A constantly evolving forum rpg created by Lief Erikson, Falathion and its players.

04-17-2002, 02:20 PM	#117
Irid al'Menie Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Middle-Earth Posts: 227	hey, i just want to say something. If i say something about a necklace or so, irid wore that necklace a long time, but in another rpg she just found it (if that makes sense). (that other rpg is in the second era). There are some other things in the future that will have happened in her past that i haven't talked about yet. Just so you know __________________ And they danced until the world consisted of shadowy flashes and each other's faces, so close...

04-19-2002, 09:30 AM	#118
Mathron Hobbit-Huorn RPG Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 695	Selwythe - my apologies for Harnauro's actions. But I'm pretty sure had I let you continue unhindered, Alfwine would be a dead character. It has been made clear the woods are a dangerous place - characters can get away with poking their heads in once, but you really would have no way to reasonably have Alfwine survive without severely altering some of the plot. __________________ Through Truth, Power.

04-22-2002, 11:31 AM	#119
Irid al'Menie Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Middle-Earth Posts: 227	I'm sorry, I couldn't stay. I don't have enough time... Oh well, i'll hear what happens from Lief i guess __________________ And they danced until the world consisted of shadowy flashes and each other's faces, so close...

04-27-2002, 02:51 PM	#120
Selwythe Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 221	I know and wasn't intending for him to really enter as before, with unexpected events. My mind is currently dead with that unconsciousness. Hope you can continue from there. __________________ If I say you have a beautiful body, will you hold it against me?

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